The end of a chapter?

Dec 21, 2010 10:50

For years this has been building up, so my apologies to anyone who this is news to. But, I think the Furry Fandom is no longer my home. I could not feel more unwelcome in the community. At some point, everything changed, and it has become increasingly difficult for me to relate to my supposed kindred spirits. A lot of people say I've changed, and I ( Read more... )

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kandrel December 21 2010, 16:42:04 UTC
Furry isn't (and has never been) one single gestalt organism. Even in the "old days" of furry there were cliques and groups, genres and sub-genres that didn't quite see eye-to-eye. The difference was that there weren't enough furs back then in most places to be picky. If you wanted some local furry friends, you had to accept some people with whom you really didn't get along. Now with the much expanded scope of the fandom, there simply isn't that necessity anymore. You can surround yourself with people whose interests match yours much more closely than just they keyword "furry."

I can't simply state this is a bad thing. Many people join furry not because they feel it's the right home for them, but because they've been thrown out of so many other communities that ours is one of the few left. Because we were so small back in the day, we ended up accepting some truly vile personalities, simply because it was either them or no-one. Beggars can't be choosers, eh?

I know there were benefits to the more universal acceptance we used to have, but damn did it have its drawbacks as well.

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cribolouf December 21 2010, 17:33:42 UTC
That being said...what if there's no community that matches your interests closely and thus you're shunned from every branch of the furry fandom?

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kandrel December 21 2010, 17:44:32 UTC
I think it's too much to ask for an exact match. I associate myself with local gamer furs here (though I'm not nearly so skilled as many of them.) I also associate myself with the creative crowd, but as most of them are artists or musicians, it's tough to find a niche for an author like myself. If I were looking for that perfect sub-community that fit me, then it would have a population of one: myself.

Instead, I simply flit back and forth between a few friendly cliques that accept me. The idea that a group would shun you because you don't perfectly conform to their stereotype is just utterly alien to my perception of the fandom, either then or now.

There's every possibility that the problems you're having with your local community isn't their cliques or niches into which you might or might not fit, but the actually personalities themselves.

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cribolouf December 21 2010, 22:39:05 UTC
erm, I'm not talking about some small local niche...I'm talking about the fandom as a whole...large and small groups, local, non-local, interest based...I've been shunned everywhere...I mean, I don't know if you've been keeping up on the state of my affairs with the fandom, but I can't go on any furry web sites, any furry chat services save anthrochat, any forums, any cons, any local furmeets, anything...

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cribolouf December 21 2010, 23:21:03 UTC
erm...just a small amendment...I CAN go on them (as in I'm not too stupid to get around bans) I'm just not really welcome on them...

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kandrel December 22 2010, 00:53:16 UTC
This is starting to sound like there's a lot more to this than the fandom itself changing. Bluntly, what are you doing that gathers you all these bans?

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cribolouf December 22 2010, 01:02:04 UTC
lol, that's what everyone assumes...it's always got to be something *I'm* doing...that also shows that you're a fucking ass-kisser and suckup to the individuals that you have placed power and trust in...you ever thought maybe for a second it's a two way street? that even if I do something to get a bad name, it might be directly caused by the fact that I was already labelled with a bad name?

This is the same bullshit about how when someone breaks out of prison, everyone assumes they're a serial killer or rapist...they never think that the person was just some innocent guy who got thrown in prison for the wrong reasons and that maybe he totally just didn't like it in prison.

The reason for such a paranoia comes from a flawed perspective that somehow there IS justice in the world, whether it's a country's legal justice system or the opinions of a few empowered faggots in a small community.

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kandrel December 22 2010, 01:16:49 UTC
Well, that answers my question.

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cribolouf December 22 2010, 01:20:19 UTC
I'm sure it does, now you can go back to fellating your fandom that you love so much like all the rest of the faggots who I would assume would ask the same ridiculous question. Learn that things aren't so black and white, asshat. I'm a fucking prick now, and it's shitheads like you that turned me into a prick.

Deal with it.

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polyhead December 22 2010, 19:01:15 UTC
And it shows us what a stupid fucker you are. You assume because a person isn't fitting in, it must be THEIR problem. That usually only shows that the person is a true individual.

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polyhead December 22 2010, 17:34:07 UTC
The same thing all of us have done to get banned. Have our own mind. The fandumb really hates that these days. People like him are free spirited. That instills fear into the typical fur fag.

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polyhead December 22 2010, 18:59:09 UTC
God you're stupid. You're part of the fucking problem.

"tween a few friendly cliques"
Fuck cliques. It's clique mentality that makes it suck, and the fact that you pander to them is discusting.

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