Is it the end of marriage?

[crboltz]

It's been a while since I've gone on one of my Prop 8. rant, while, there have been a handful of things that have prompted me to get off my butt and rant away.

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Re: Ok, I agree to disagree.

[stacymckenna]

I couldn't care less which groups refer to joinings using which words, whether it be marriage, domestic partnership, sealing, or snarfblat. YOU'RE the one who's desperately attached to the word "marriage" and refuses to give it up one way or the other. *Chris* proposed the option of making all legally recognized joinings called something else and giving the word "marriage" back to religion, so I've been discussing the issue based on his proposal. I have just been confused as to why you care WHAT the state calls it as long as everyone's using the same form and getting the same legal rights. Essentially, what does the word "marriage" mean to you that you're so afraid would be removed from your relationship if it were called something else?

I think you're basically telling me I can't get 'married' (under these proposed changes we're discussing) because I don't belong to or believe in religion.
If the word "marriage" was reserved for only the religious ceremony and had no legal/state usage, yes. Just like you couldn't be called baptized or bat mitzvahed or confirmed or saved or handfasted or any of those other terms that refer solely to people who've participated in a religious ceremony they believe in. That doesn't mean you'd be lesser in any way (well, at least as far as I'm concerned), the word just wouldn't be applicable.

I see no reason why the State should now change their term for Marriage to Domestic Partnership.
Much of the objection to same sex marriage is based in religion. Religious folk (the obnoxious kind) are so hell bent on keeping the word "marriage" that they'd vote and fight to prevent C&J from getting one because it goes against their religious beliefs. If the easiest way for C&J to get equal legal rights in their joining is for the state to change the word, I'd say that's a damn good reason for the legal designation to be changed for everyone.

[the_celestia]

OK, you win the Internets.

Thanks for the discussion, it's been interesting.