I never expect my journal entries to prompt one... I don't really want to start a debate, though.
Yeah I figured that's what you meant. I just meant it was still... I'll say sad, since I can't think of a better term right now. Even though animal testing is for research and not mindless abuse, it's still often cruel what is done to the animals-- since they are harming them. But I know there are different forms of animal testing. Not all involve vivisection. The blue rats possibly got off a bit better than some, sure. I don't know how much pain would be involved, but they recovered and were able to live normally for awhile after their back was broken before they were dissected.
Don't they always test on animals first? They tested the rats to make sure there were no side effects of the dye. Although testing in animals doesn't always, 100% of the time show us that something is safe for humans, but with food dye... You really would think there wouldn't be much risk in the first place. They do want to test it on humans "right away" now, though.
Euthanasia is probably the only real humane option for a lot of feral cats, yeah. But maybe it would be possible to get them vet care and have them transported to a location fit for a feral cat colony? I don't know. I'd guess you'd have to contact organizations that work with feral cats. But with so many there isn't a place for all of them, I know.
Awww. Do you think that now, in the days of MRIs and ultrasounds, they resort to dissection with frequency? I guess I just don't want to believe that. Cognitive dissonance, big time. :C
I don't mind debate, but if you're uncomfortable with it, I'll respect that.~
I know that for certain organic products aren't animal tested. And lmao, you're right! Since food dye is purportedly non-toxic, then yeah, wth?
As for testing on humans, lol, blue people walking around. But they'll be walking, which is awesome!
I remember a no-killing cat shelter in Englewood, a city close to where I live. They encouraged people to visit and pet the animals, who needed love sooo badly. It struck me as a little sad (there was a cat who was thoroughly disabled after being hit by a car and I couldn't help but spend my time with him, solely -- this was pre-illness on my part), but the cats seemed content enough.
I'll look for them, or an organization like them. I realize that it's not for me to judge whether these cats need to be euthanized. Just yesterday, I saw a kitten (well, close to one) who was ALREADY pregnant. ;__;
Nah, I'm sure they dissect laboratory animals routinely. Or if they don't want to they "get rid of them."
I think maybe there are some types of food dye that can cause some kind of reactions, like hyperactivity. I dunno if it's proven or how much of it you'd have to eat, though.
That is sad... Feral cats should at least be fixed so they don't make more feral cats. Sometimes they can be helped, sometimes they can't... It is heartbreaking. I'm glad I was able to save a couple litters of kittens from being feral or dying, but I know that there are so many out there that are left to their own devices.
Yeah I figured that's what you meant. I just meant it was still... I'll say sad, since I can't think of a better term right now. Even though animal testing is for research and not mindless abuse, it's still often cruel what is done to the animals-- since they are harming them. But I know there are different forms of animal testing. Not all involve vivisection. The blue rats possibly got off a bit better than some, sure. I don't know how much pain would be involved, but they recovered and were able to live normally for awhile after their back was broken before they were dissected.
Don't they always test on animals first? They tested the rats to make sure there were no side effects of the dye. Although testing in animals doesn't always, 100% of the time show us that something is safe for humans, but with food dye... You really would think there wouldn't be much risk in the first place. They do want to test it on humans "right away" now, though.
Euthanasia is probably the only real humane option for a lot of feral cats, yeah. But maybe it would be possible to get them vet care and have them transported to a location fit for a feral cat colony? I don't know. I'd guess you'd have to contact organizations that work with feral cats. But with so many there isn't a place for all of them, I know.
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I don't mind debate, but if you're uncomfortable with it, I'll respect that.~
I know that for certain organic products aren't animal tested. And lmao, you're right! Since food dye is purportedly non-toxic, then yeah, wth?
As for testing on humans, lol, blue people walking around. But they'll be walking, which is awesome!
I remember a no-killing cat shelter in Englewood, a city close to where I live. They encouraged people to visit and pet the animals, who needed love sooo badly. It struck me as a little sad (there was a cat who was thoroughly disabled after being hit by a car and I couldn't help but spend my time with him, solely -- this was pre-illness on my part), but the cats seemed content enough.
I'll look for them, or an organization like them. I realize that it's not for me to judge whether these cats need to be euthanized. Just yesterday, I saw a kitten (well, close to one) who was ALREADY pregnant. ;__;
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I think maybe there are some types of food dye that can cause some kind of reactions, like hyperactivity. I dunno if it's proven or how much of it you'd have to eat, though.
That is sad... Feral cats should at least be fixed so they don't make more feral cats. Sometimes they can be helped, sometimes they can't... It is heartbreaking. I'm glad I was able to save a couple litters of kittens from being feral or dying, but I know that there are so many out there that are left to their own devices.
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