Review: Torchwood S2 09 Something Borrowed

[crabby_lioness]

Now that was a Proper Superhero Wedding. How come Torchwood feels so much more like a well-done superhero comic book than Heroes?

(Probably because Torchwood doesn't take itself too seriously and keeps the angst to a manageable level.)

Bride in Peril - check.  Major Bad Guys Crash the Wedding - check.  Good Guys Counter-Crash the Wedding - check.

Comments

[love_jackianto]

Crabby Lioness

Great review. I really liked this episode, for all the things you mentioned. I loved the Jack/Ianto dancing scene, if the rest of the team didn't know about them I think they do now; plus I loved that smile on Jack's face. I wish I could have seen Ianto's face, though. I can't figure out why most people (in the fandom) are so angry; I've heard everything from 'Jack's just using Ianto, until he can get Gwen' to 'Ianto needs to grow a spine and dump Jack'. I really didn't see that at all. If anything Jack feels more like a father to Gwen in this episode, and if Ianto felt threatened by Jack/Gwen I think he would do more than just stand-back (Ianto does have one heck of a left hook).

In the dancing scene I noticed that Jack/Ianto and Gwen/Rhys were together, whilst Owen/Tosh were standing near to each other in the background. If that doesn't speak volumes about their respective relationships, I don't know what does. How I love the staging in this show.

When Jack was looking at all those pictures in the box, I noticed that they were all of Jack; that could mean that they were pictures he gave to lovers and he may have taken them back when the lover died. Either that, or he just likes to keep pictures of himself (this is Jack we're talking about).

[crabby_lioness]

It's not "most people", it's a shrill minority. And I completely agree with you about the staging.

[love_jackianto]

'It's not 'most people', it's a shrill minority.' That's good to know, I thought maybe I was watching the wrong show.

'And I completely agree with you about the staging.' I did learn form the best :D

[crabby_lioness]

Aw, shucks. :)

[dragonmage86]

Are they? I thought they were of different people...though theyre not especially clear.

And i agree with you that people are getting themselves too bothered by the whole gwack thing. If Ianto isnt worried, them im not.

[love_jackianto]

'Are they? I thought they were of different people...'I think they're Jack. Notice the cleft in the chin:

[dragonmage86]

yeah on reflection i think ur right.

They are rather blurry, and my first thought was "why would jack have so many pictures of himself?"

...but on reflection it kinda makes sense lol

[love_jackianto]

'"why would jack have so many pictures of himself?"

...but on reflection it kinda makes sense lol' Yeah. Jack does seem to be a bit of a narcissist. *heh*

[mwrgana]

Just cos I'm curious, and haven't been irritated to hell and back for a while by inane comments, would you let me know where I can find some of these strange remarks about Jack and Ianto, please? (already starting to feel queasy about Jack/Gwen shipping but like a rabbit in the headlights...)

[love_jackianto]

Most of the comments I found in review posts over at torch_wood for 'Something Borrowed'. It's gotten so bad that I don't read review posts from people I don't know anymore. Here are a few links:

'I mean, the horror of fawning over your major mancrush like a loyal little puppy whilst said mancrush indulges you and waits for something better (hetter?) to come along.'
http://tencrush.livejournal.com/94284.html

'...Jack all but pinning for the newly married Gwen as he dances with Ianto.' 'Poor ikkle Welsh teaboy is going to get his heart-broken.'
http://mon-starling.livejournal.com/366322.html

'...Ianto deserves better.' '...I really, really want Ianto to dump Jack.'
http://from-the-corner.livejournal.com/53693.html

Hope these help.

[mwrgana]

Thanks for that - it was... interesting.
Maybe I'm too old and cynical but I just cannot accept any of this Jack-really-loves-Gwen crap. Fancy the fuck out of each other and regret never doing it but since when has that been love or affected the "real" relationship?
And didn't anyone appreciate the joke of Ianto's excuse-me and then dancing with the other guy and not the girl? OK, see it coming from miles away but still worth a grin, surely?

[love_jackianto]

'Fancy the fuck out of each other and regret never doing it but since when has that been love or affected the 'real' relationship?' Completely agree.

'And didn't anyone appreciate the joke of Ianto's excuse-me and then dancing with the other guy and not the girl? OK, see it coming from miles away but still worth a grin, surely?' I thought it was cute :D but some people saw it as Ianto *desperately* trying to get Jack's attention. I don't know why people see Ianto as such a puppy-dog, he's a (very intelligent) grown man.

'Maybe I'm too old and cynical but I just cannot accept any of this Jack-really-loves-Gwen crap.' Neither can I. Jack may be attracted to Gwen, but if he *really* wanted her would have had done a lot more than flirting by now.

[mwrgana]

some people saw it as Ianto *desperately* trying to get Jack's attention.
I hope to god they get wise before they're actually old to date, themselves!

[love_jackianto]

'I hope to god they get wise before they're actually old to date, themselves!' *nods* It just seems very strange that some people are angry and Jack hasn't even done anything more than be Jack- he flirts, that's just what he does. Yes, Jack is close to Gwen, but he's also close to Tosh and Owen too.

[crabby_lioness]

Some people have this bizarre notion that flirting = intercourse. I'm always having to correct that.

[love_jackianto]

'Some people have this bizarre notion that flirting = intercourse.' Your right, that does seem like a bizarre notion.