I'll handwave where they parked the Enterprise at the start of the movie because it looked awesome when they moved her to rescue Spock.
I agree totally with your viewpoint on why it was right that they took the Enterprise away from Kirk.
It is hard not to be aware of the contrasting reactions of people to 1)Harrison's real identity and 2)the actor playing him.
Personally, I loved it because Benedict Cumberbatch is damn good at what he does. I can't imagine somebody else in his place now and the last time that happened was when we first saw the actor playing Nick Fury in the Marvel movies. I couldn't imagine that working as well as it did until I saw Samuel L Jackson playing the character on screen and was then fully convinced that it was wonderful casting.
Getting back to the movie, I thought the beaming to the Klingon homeworld thingy was sort of hand-waved by the later reference to the Transwarp equations from the previous film? A devious, incredibly intelligent bad guy given access to the existence of those equations could do something with them, y/n?
The Kirk/Spock stuff was off the charts compared to the first move.
There was not much of Sulu or Chekov but I loved them both. Scotty, McCoy and Uhura continue to be fabulous.
For some of the other stuff in the movie, I cringed. Kirk's brashness and his bedmates near the start of the movie, for example. Then I remind myself that he was on course to be a genius level delinquent in the previous movie and accept his personality is going to be different to the original incarnation of Kirk accordingly.
The pivotal scene between Kirk and Spock near the end of the movie was moving but I thought the Pike scene with Kirk and Spock kneeling at his side had much more visceral impact when seeing it up there on the screen.
I'd give it a solid 8/10 and I'm definitely going back for a second viewing.
I agree, BC did an amazing job making Khan his own. I had been a little worried that he wouldn't have enough fire to go with the ice, but I was sold as soon as he started talking.
Getting back to the movie, I thought the beaming to the Klingon homeworld thingy was sort of hand-waved by the later reference to the Transwarp equations from the previous film? A devious, incredibly intelligent bad guy given access to the existence of those equations could do something with them, y/n?
Wellllll... I mean, I get that they were trying to explain that away, but I just didn't buy it. Transwarp beaming is pretty powerful, and Section 31 might have made it more so, but from Earth to the Klingon home planet is just too much of a stretch for me. If you can beam anywhere in the galaxy, why do they even need starships?
Then I remind myself that he was on course to be a genius level delinquent in the previous movie and accept his personality is going to be different to the original incarnation of Kirk accordingly.
Yes, I agree. I've never had a problem with Kirk's characterization, personally. Given how completely different his upbringing was, I totally buy this wilder, less mature Kirk.
And I totally agree that the scene by Pike's body had a much greater impact than the later stuff. I think that was just so true to these particular characters and where they are, instead of trying to cram them into the mold of their original counterparts.
I'll handwave where they parked the Enterprise at the start of the movie because it looked awesome when they moved her to rescue Spock.
I agree totally with your viewpoint on why it was right that they took the Enterprise away from Kirk.
It is hard not to be aware of the contrasting reactions of people to 1)Harrison's real identity and 2)the actor playing him.
Personally, I loved it because Benedict Cumberbatch is damn good at what he does. I can't imagine somebody else in his place now and the last time that happened was when we first saw the actor playing Nick Fury in the Marvel movies. I couldn't imagine that working as well as it did until I saw Samuel L Jackson playing the character on screen and was then fully convinced that it was wonderful casting.
Getting back to the movie, I thought the beaming to the Klingon homeworld thingy was sort of hand-waved by the later reference to the Transwarp equations from the previous film? A devious, incredibly intelligent bad guy given access to the existence of those equations could do something with them, y/n?
The Kirk/Spock stuff was off the charts compared to the first move.
There was not much of Sulu or Chekov but I loved them both. Scotty, McCoy and Uhura continue to be fabulous.
For some of the other stuff in the movie, I cringed. Kirk's brashness and his bedmates near the start of the movie, for example. Then I remind myself that he was on course to be a genius level delinquent in the previous movie and accept his personality is going to be different to the original incarnation of Kirk accordingly.
The pivotal scene between Kirk and Spock near the end of the movie was moving but I thought the Pike scene with Kirk and Spock kneeling at his side had much more visceral impact when seeing it up there on the screen.
I'd give it a solid 8/10 and I'm definitely going back for a second viewing.
I'll now return to lurking. *g*
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I agree, BC did an amazing job making Khan his own. I had been a little worried that he wouldn't have enough fire to go with the ice, but I was sold as soon as he started talking.
Getting back to the movie, I thought the beaming to the Klingon homeworld thingy was sort of hand-waved by the later reference to the Transwarp equations from the previous film? A devious, incredibly intelligent bad guy given access to the existence of those equations could do something with them, y/n?
Wellllll... I mean, I get that they were trying to explain that away, but I just didn't buy it. Transwarp beaming is pretty powerful, and Section 31 might have made it more so, but from Earth to the Klingon home planet is just too much of a stretch for me. If you can beam anywhere in the galaxy, why do they even need starships?
Then I remind myself that he was on course to be a genius level delinquent in the previous movie and accept his personality is going to be different to the original incarnation of Kirk accordingly.
Yes, I agree. I've never had a problem with Kirk's characterization, personally. Given how completely different his upbringing was, I totally buy this wilder, less mature Kirk.
And I totally agree that the scene by Pike's body had a much greater impact than the later stuff. I think that was just so true to these particular characters and where they are, instead of trying to cram them into the mold of their original counterparts.
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