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essius February 8 2011, 06:24:00 UTC
According to Aristotle, all corporeal reality is composed of the same basic matter-prime matter-whereas all matter in the physical sense is composed of prime matter and substantial form.

As Aquinas later puts it in his De ente et essentia:
    …because matter is the principle of individuation, it would perhaps seem to follow that essence, which embraces in itself simultaneously both form and matter, is merely particular and not universal. From this it would follow that universals have no definitions, assuming that essence is what is signified by the definition. Thus, we must point out that matter understood in the way we have thus far understood it is not the principle of individuation; only signate matter is the principle of individuation. I call signate matter matter considered under determinate dimensions. Signate matter is not included in the definition of man as man, but signate matter would be included in the definition of Socrates if Socrates had a definition. In the definition of man, however, is included non-signate matter: in ( ... )

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anosognosia February 8 2011, 08:17:20 UTC
"According to Aristotle, all corporeal reality is composed of the same basic matter-prime matter-whereas all matter in the physical sense is composed of prime matter and substantial form."

Is there any extant corporeal reality other than matter in the physical sense?

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essius February 8 2011, 08:20:34 UTC
Sorry, that should have read something more like this: According to Aristotle, all corporeal reality, all matter in the physical sense, is composed of the same basic stuff-i.e., prime matter (united to substantial form, which is not "stuff" but the determination thereof).

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anosognosia February 8 2011, 08:22:23 UTC
Ok, sure. But what I don't get is how things can be made out of something that doesn't exist. It's a conundrum.

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essius February 8 2011, 08:25:32 UTC
Your notion of existence is too exclusive. You gotta let prime matter into the club, man. At least potentially.

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anosognosia February 8 2011, 08:31:56 UTC
Prime matter's definitely got a lot of potential, but it's entirely unformed. :|

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essius February 8 2011, 08:33:59 UTC
I covered that already. Or substantial form did. So let 'im in, dude.

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