You think open bornders are ok? THINK AGAIN.

Nov 26, 2007 10:24

I mean is anyone really surprised? I mean with MILLIONS of people being able to freely cross our border, is it any wonder that our enemies would choose to do this. This report alone is justification for any military action against Iran. Because if a guy is willing to blow himself apart to kill a few infidels, imagine that idiot with a small nuke. ( Read more... )

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Re: "Catholicism and Islamic Extremism are the same to me!" Thanks politikitty! politikitty November 27 2007, 14:30:30 UTC
Actually I never said that it came out of poverty. Simply political failures.

In the Great Depression, we had a strong government. It might have expanded the Great Depression, but it quelled the people into believing that it *was* addressing the problem. While people lost faith in capitalism, they did not lose faith in the government.

Considering that most suicide bombers are far more educated than the average person, I'd be kinda dumb to think that it was poverty that created the problem. But With increasing knowledge of al-Qaeda, we see that “the presence of American military forces for combat operations on the homeland territory of the suicide terrorists is stronger than Islamic fundamentalism in predicting whether individuals from that country will become al-Qaeda suicide terrorists” (103). “Al-Qaeda is less a transnational network of like-minded ideologues . . . than a cross-national military alliance of national liberation movements working together against what they see as a common imperial threat” (104). The nature of Salafism, a Sunni form of Islamic fundamentalism, is complex (105-07). Statistical analysis fails to corroborate Salafism-terrorism connection, but it does corroborate a connection to U.S. military policies in the Persian Gulf (107-17). Al-Qaeda propaganda emphasizes the “Crusader” theme, which is inherently related to occupation (117-24). Pape concludes that “the core features of al-Qaeda” are captured by his theory (125).

When the government fails politically, people tend to turn to tribal and religious lines. Again that doesn't make this a religious war.

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"It's politics not the religion" my ass. melvin_udall November 27 2007, 19:15:59 UTC
I'd be kinda dumb to think that it was poverty that created the problem.

Yes. You would be. Sadly that doesn't stop similar arguments with as little merit. A big old link to something unrelated to your assertion doesn't really help us much.

Politics, you say? Hm.

Maybe the teacher was covertly promoting a return to Western colonialism but the government would rather we think they're beating her for naming a teddy bear!

A name, I might add, provided by the kids, who are so unimaginative and screwed up that they'd come up with the list of names they did because of the ignorance loving pervasive religion, in a country that will likely remain a third world country due to that religion.

While you dutifully whine about how this is all the fault of Western colonialism, as you did while your professors patted you on the head and you salivated whenever bells rang, you are being as "dumb" as those who would say poverty created the problem.

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Re: "It's politics not the religion" my ass. politikitty November 27 2007, 19:20:28 UTC
Right right. Keep barking little boy.

Go on. Let's see you post count a little more.

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Re: "It's politics not the religion" my ass. melvin_udall November 27 2007, 19:23:12 UTC
LOL!

You've got nothing, huh, honey? And now you can't even be original. You have to steal my lines and hope the boys come rescue the poor little girl.

Fantastic. You are woman! Hear you whimper and scurry away. AHAHAHAHAA!

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hope the boys come rescue the poor little girl. virtual_anima November 27 2007, 19:28:03 UTC
yeah right, I'd hope she rescues me some time.

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right on queue melvin_udall November 27 2007, 19:32:43 UTC
And right on queue the hyena comes running.

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Re: "It's politics not the religion" my ass. politikitty November 27 2007, 19:35:25 UTC
I'm done with you.

Seriously. You destroy any hope at intelligent arguments. You're the biggest troll in this community, yet you're accepted because you spout off the right ideology.

I've never seen you respond to a comment without an ad hominem attack. You're a train wreck. Have fun mocking everyone else. But you're not getting any more entertainment out of me.

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Re: "It's politics not the religion" my ass. melvin_udall November 27 2007, 20:09:31 UTC
We both understand perfectly what's gone on here, hon.

You tried the tired old "it's Western colonialism / all our fault" canard because, as we all know, there are no such things as bad guys to Liberals unless those bad guys are Republicans or US soldiers.

I poked a hole in the pure dumb of it.

You ran out of regurgitated propaganda to deal with the giant flaw in your argument and so became enraged.

This is a good thing. It might mean there is a chance you've begun to realize the flaws in so much of what you've been taught. You might be waking up, just as I did.

Don't go away mad, sweetcheeks. Just go away. And reflect. While reflecting try to reflect on the countless millions of women who have no rights, who are sometimes literally sold into slavery, and how that is all the fault of Western colonialism, not the religion. Surely the slavery, rape, beatings and lack of freedom of millions of your fellow women in the name of Allah is at least a little close in importance to your rabid ideology. At least worth a moment of consideration? Even a moment? Maybe one of the speakers at a Vagina Monologue should stand up and beat herself bloody for even trying to speak at all. Have you checked out VM:"Under the Burqa?" Maybe you should, but interrupt and tell her it's about politics, not religion.

Take heart. Your compatriots will diligently work to bury this conversation under enough posts no one will want to wade in and find out what actually happened.

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Re: "It's politics not the religion" my ass. virtual_anima November 27 2007, 21:08:12 UTC
Oh don't worry, we're linking it elsewhere for people to laugh at.

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Re: "It's politics not the religion" my ass. melvin_udall November 27 2007, 21:24:21 UTC
I assumed you would. You cowards hate a fair fight. That's exactly why I call you "hyenas," genius. Way to go proving me right again and again.

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flail flail flail virtual_anima November 27 2007, 21:34:17 UTC
You assumed 'i' would yet claimed we're burying it. slick contradiction there, smooth criminal.

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troll troll troll melvin_udall November 27 2007, 22:09:57 UTC
Now you're clearly babbling just to postcount. But by all means continue.

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Re: troll troll troll virtual_anima November 27 2007, 22:14:02 UTC
Alright, I will. Do you have a king?

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Re: troll troll troll melvin_udall November 27 2007, 23:22:16 UTC
Now you're clearly babbling just to postcount. But by all means continue.

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On that topic virtual_anima November 27 2007, 23:41:26 UTC
Because postcounting wins internets!

No, really, who cares about that?

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Re: On that topic melvin_udall November 27 2007, 23:42:09 UTC
Now you're clearly babbling just to postcount.

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