parsing

May 11, 2008 22:21

Is there a difference between "if" and "if and only if"?

If you think so, please explain.

parsing, grammar, nitpicking

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lawyer grammar queen bing_crosby May 12 2008, 02:23:31 UTC
emphasis only, I would think. And let me test this out-- like "or" vs "and/or," it's more vague than the shorter version while claiming to be more specific.

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Re: lawyer grammar queen commandercranky May 12 2008, 03:54:08 UTC
I wasn't sure when I posted this, but I've thought about it more and I think there is an important difference. I disagree that the longer version is vague. It's the shorter version that is less specific.

For example (to borrow from vampyrecat), imagine two different rules:

1. If you clean your room you get a cookie.

2. If and only if you clean your room you get a cookie.

Under rule 1 there might be other ways to get a cookie, but we know this is one way. Under rule 2 you're stuck - you better clean your room if you want a cookie, because there's no other option.

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Re: lawyer grammar queen bing_crosby May 12 2008, 04:35:25 UTC
ok, point taken. didn't take much.

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Re: lawyer grammar queen i_am_electro May 12 2008, 04:37:30 UTC
As someone who thinks like a robot sometimes, you are correct. If and only if is very important when trying to limit cookie distribution.

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Re: lawyer grammar queen never_the_less May 12 2008, 14:27:00 UTC
I want to say "another vote for this answer," but it is so clearly correct that it's not like voting for it means anything.

Anyway, yes there is a difference and this is it.

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