Discussion: Rolo, Rollo or as you wish to write it XD

Jul 12, 2008 22:01

Ok so thanks to my frikin job I just watched Turn 13 CG R2 yesterday, and I'm still very impressed of it. That's why I decided to discuss over this frikky dikky character called Rolo ;3

So yes, he did it and I don't know if I want to thank him or if I should curse him XD Actually I didn't like Shirley at all, but I never thought it would go that far ( Read more... )

discussion, anime r2:episode 13

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clones July 13 2008, 05:21:43 UTC
Ah! A discussion about my favorite character in Geass.

I agree with you in thinking that Rolo isn't in love with Lelouch, he's just in love with the idea of having a family, someone who cares for him, and a normal lifestyle. It's not hard to understand why he has an abnormal desire to be wanted; Rolo doesn't have any parents, and he's spent his entire life manipulating people and then killing them.

He doesn't know what a life is or what love is. He's starved for affection, and it isn't a far fetch to think that Rolo could harbor feeling for Lelouch that aren't strictly of a brotherly nature, but most likely only because he doesn't understand how to show the emotions that he has for Lelouch.

Turn 7, for example, shows Rolo getting unnecessarily close to Lelouch when speaking to him. This can be interpreted as Rolo showing affection toward Lelouch that isn't of a brotherly nature, or a misunderstanding on Rolo's part about how siblings are supposed to interact. Personally, I think of it as a threatening move. Rolo is telling Lelouch that being Zero is a burden and that it is getting in the way of creating the ideal life that he promised. The way that Rolo says that he will always be there for Lelouch...forever, seems to be some sort of threat, to me. Like he is trying to communicate with Lelouch that there is no escaping the promises that he has made.

During turn 7, Rolo also purposely taunts Lelouch by putting the televised images of Nunnally on the bus. This is rather strange to me; it's as if Rolo is trying to show Lelouch that Nunnally is a burden, yet he also helps Lelouch earlier by allowing him time to speak with Nunnally when Sazaku tries to pull one on Lelouch. I'm not quite certain what Rolo's feelings toward Nunnally are yet, but it seems to be mixed. He might feel resentment toward her for being Lelouch's real sister, and he might think that she will simply get in the way of his life.

Also, Rolo believes that Ashford Academy is the only place where he belongs. He also tells Lelouch that if he gets caught, him and Lelouch share the same fate - death. This shows that Rolo is willing to give up the existence that he currently has in order to make a new one with Lelouch; the way that Rolo says this also shows a desire to share something with Lelouch, even something as terrible as death. Rolo wants desperately to identify with Lelouch. He wants this life, and he will do whatever it takes to get it.

I wouldn't put it past Rolo to harm Lelouch in a fit or rage if Lelouch were to go back on his promise. It would be very easy for him; and once again, I believe that Rolo is in love with the idea of the life that Lelouch says he can offer him.

I'm not quite certain why Rolo killed Shirely, but it could have roots in the theory that Rolo is in love with Lelouch and dislikes Shirley for being in love with him as well. Or it could be because someone knowing about Lelouch's life as Zero is dangerous when Lelouch and Rolo could both be put to death if news escaped.

I feel terrible for Rolo. The only person that he has ever gotten close to is using him, and he may or may not know this.

/extremely long ramble

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demyx July 13 2008, 05:37:38 UTC
You pretty much said what I wanted to say but was too lazy to type up. HAHAHA.

I actually believe that Rolo does doubt Lelouch. If he really, truly trusted Lelouch, he wouldn't have had the need to do what he did in episode 7, or repeatedly ask Lelouch if he'd keep his promise in episode 8. I think he's lightened up a little since then, but then he went and killed Shirley on the grounds that she remembered. I believe she even told Rolo that she wanted to help them, but as soon as she said Nunnally's name... I think he perceived Shirley as a threat to his way of life that he wanted to protect and he took care of it the only way he knew how. It's really depressing, because I know that wasn't Shirley's intention at all.

Hence why I feel even more sorry for him. Lelouch was definitely planning to off him either way, maybe Sunrise just made him kill Shirley so Lelouch is more justified in doing so. /conspiracy theory

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clones July 13 2008, 05:46:20 UTC
I will be very sad if they kill off Rolo. When, probably being the better word; I'll probably hate Lelouch for a little while afterward too, which is weird because he's one of my favorites. ;_;

This discussion depresses me. Yet, I'm still all for your conspiracy theory.

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rkylo July 13 2008, 05:58:32 UTC
I won't ever be able to hate Lulu because he's my favorite character, but if he indeed killed Rolo I would be somehow sad D:

I love little Rolo boy

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clones July 13 2008, 06:07:53 UTC
Ha! I'd only hate Lelouch for a little while. He was my favorite character before Rolo came along. (Rolo, Lelouch & Sazaku - in that order, are my favorites! ♥ I should probably stick Gino in there somewhere.)

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rkylo July 13 2008, 05:57:35 UTC
I also agree with you, but oh my ganz, Lulu killing Rolo will make me feel really sad. He's only a poor boy without anyone in the world D:

But I don't know, how would he know he killed Shirley? She didn't say a thing and...well who knows, Sunrise will keep surprising me til the end, and I'm sure they won't disapoint me but make me sad if they killed any of those two, aka Lulu and/or Rolo XD

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rkylo July 13 2008, 05:54:25 UTC
I agree with you :3

But also the fact of Rolo killing Shirley maybe was totally because of Nunally being mentioned, even if I want to believe it was like that, he can't be in love with Lulu. He only wants to keep him by his side.

Also, who knows, maybe he want to die with him, or as I mentioned already kill him and yeah why not, kill himself. It's crazy, but I think of it as a very romantic scene.

*is crazy*

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clones July 13 2008, 06:04:12 UTC
Eh, I think that even if Nunnally wasn't mentioned he would have still killed Shirley. I don't think that Rolo hates Nunnally personally, but I think he perceives her as being an obstacle in the way of the life that was promised to him.

As demyx said, Rolo dealt with Shirley in the only way that he knew how - killing. He was afraid that his life with Lelouch was in jeopardy, not solely angered by the mention of Nunnally.

As I stated before, Rolo could also be slightly jealous of Nunnally, but only because Lelouch might see him as a replacement, or Rolo maybe jealous of her because she was the original.

I don't think that jealousy fueled the violent reaction that Rolo had; he would have known that killing Shirley would not impress Lelouch. Rolo only killed Shirley because he saw no other option than to eliminate her.

I'm really not sure what Rolo thinks Lelouch's reaction will be when he finds out. Perhaps he hopes that Lelouch will understand why he killed her?

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