[STICKIED] Community Question Post #42 - THE OTHER "F" WORD

[theidolhands]

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theidolhands asks: Can you recall a time that a co-worker really ticked you off or rubbed you the wrong way and you came to forgive them? Why

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[ellex42]

It takes a fair amount of effort to get in my bad graces. You have to actually work at it (not just be a lazy ass who doesn't want to do their job). I've never met anyone who managed to redeem themselves.

Like Sweeney Todd, I never forget and I never forgive! But once those people are out of my life, I don't give them another thought.

[theidolhands]

Bonus points for quoting Sweeney Todd.

[ellex42]

It's seldom I can point to one thing and say "that's my favorite", but Sweeney Todd is my all-time favorite musical. I was incredibly disappointed by the Tim Burton film, but I have both the George Hearn/Angela Lansbury version from 1983 and the George Hearn/Patti LuPone concert version from 2001, which are excellent.

You can't talk about forgiveness (or lack thereof) without a nod to Sweeney Todd.

[theidolhands]

I was disappointed in it as well and I am an (obvious) devotee of some of their work (which doesn't mean I'm a devotee of Depp himself). I felt like I couldn't cut through a lot of fandom squealing to lodge a complain though.

I mean, it looks cool in still shots, but overall it didn't capture the essence of the plays I'd enjoyed. The judge wasn't creepy or old enough looking (although of course I enjoy Rickman's work) and Todd stood out far too much as a cartoon image to go by unsuspected by townsfolk (which was a huge appeal for me).

The only part that I liked was the child being a child (as opposed to a man-child), that was an okay twist imo & made the drunk scene hilarious as well as shocking.

[ellex42]

Burton cut nearly all of my favorite song ("A Little Priest") and took the humor out of what was left. Actually, I found nearly all the humor and the pathos of the story missing from the film. Casting professional singers alongside amateurs didn't do Depp or Helena Bonham-Carter any favors. Depp was not sympathetic as Todd at all, and his accent was almost a caricature, and very distracting. I find him a hit or miss actor - when he's good, he's really good, but when he's bad, he's awful.

The "By the Sea" sequence was brilliant, and couldn't habe been done on stage, but I really found it the only bright spot of the film.

[theidolhands]

Casting professional singers alongside amateurs didn't do Depp or Helena Bonham-Carter any favors. Fully agree. Your other points too.

Man, it's so hard to reason with certain drooling fans who refuse to be able to enjoy something/someone, but can still admit its failures.

[ellex42]

Man, it's so hard to reason with certain drooling fans who refuse to be able to enjoy something/someone, but can still admit its failures.

You mean the people who say "So-and-so did/said something that could be construed as less than absolutely perfect, so everything they do/are involved with should be boycotted, and you're a terrible person for enjoying anything connected to them." Yeah, I don't have much patience for that.

It's funny you should say that - my mother and I watched Disney's "Song of the South" last night (you can find the entire film on Youtube) and were discussing what a shame it is that Disney has never remastered and rereleased it. There are plenty of objectionable things about it, but it's still a wonderful film (the seamlessness of the live action/animation sequences is incredible). It's a product of its time, and it's a mistake not to recognize and acknowledge that.

[theidolhands]

I still love the tale of Briar Rabbit and find it a useful analogy, "Don't throw me in the briar patch!". I also can't imagine a world without Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah.