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Jun 01, 2005 23:37

Alright, so this lunch I had a very goo discussion with Justin, Natalie, and Rachel about oil, the planet's future, garbage, and other stuff too. The thing that we disagreed on most and peaked my interest the most was the garbage issue. I'm gonna try to give both sides as objectively as possible. Justin and I felt that, once it became ( Read more... )

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cloudman June 2 2005, 23:45:25 UTC
WORD to Colin, because I dunno how I can hammer it into your guys' heads just how BIG space is. Maybe you guys haven't seen enough Star Trek, but we're talking billions and billions of LIGHTYEARS, a distance one can't even really fathom.

And I totally agree with Ariel (that's my half-brother) and Sarah, that we should be focusing on recycling etc., but that's why I said in the first place that the stuff being sent into space is the stuff we can't recycle, maybe 2% or .000001% or whatever, so it's a totally small fraction of what is actually used. Maybe just send all the radioactive stuff away, perhaps into the sun. And we'll definitely have economically feasible rockets in the coming decades. Look at the X Prize winner, SpaceShip One, I mean that shit's efficient!

Well, now that I think about it, I think once we start recycling enough trash probably won't be a huge problem and we probably won't have to send it into space.

But for some reason that whole "not our space" argument fires me up. It's fucking SPACE for chrissake, next to nothing is out there. How can I argue it any better?! We're talking like putting a drop of red dye in the pacific ocean. Infintessimal.

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asgio June 3 2005, 11:39:00 UTC
I'm gonna have to go with becca to counter you on that. This is exactly the same naive, egotistical attitude that created the dust bowl and has caused much of the world's pollution over the past two centuries. I think we may find in the future that it will just "nip us in the rear" as becca put it.

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darwins_own June 4 2005, 23:50:37 UTC
Marty, its SPACE. You guys really dont get this, do you? It is SO big. We would never, and i mean NEVER, see ANYTHING we sent out there. It is not the same attitude that created the dust bowl. Space IS a dust bowl. There is NOTHING there to ruin.

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elusterman June 5 2005, 14:04:34 UTC
Well yah, in all likelihood we'd not ever see anything we sent out there again... but i mean, basically, you and sam are taking the same attitude that has (as becca and marty pointed out) gotten us into a lot of trouble in the past. I mean, like, a bunch of people came over to America and were like "jesus fucking christ, these trees are everywhere. i mean there are sooo many trees...wow, if i cut down some trees and built a house it totally wouldn't matter because these trees just never end." and now we have like zero forests compared to how many there once were. yah yah yah, i know i know i know, space is freaking massive and endless and all that compared to America, but you get what I'm saying.

I mean, "there is NOTHING there to ruin" ?!? I swear we don't know everything that's out there...right? i mean, you don't really know?

i'm not being coherent or articulate at all and am just a waste of time and space. blech.

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themouseinbread June 5 2005, 21:34:57 UTC
THANK YOU Colin.

But I think the other side does have a point, but I counter with the fact that we as humans think trees and whales and all that are beautiful, and space, I mean, it's just a bunch of gas and dust. And sure, there's beautiful things in it, but they are so massive we couldn't mess them up even if we wanted to.

And for chrissake, it's TRASH. It's not that bad. We dump it here don't we? We're not sending out the grim fucking reaper or anything. For all we know it could be food to aliens.

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cloudman June 5 2005, 21:36:24 UTC
Ahhh fuck I posted with my sister's account. She didn't goddamn log out.

Well this is ME people, Sam M.

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