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Sep 19, 2004 14:26



[13:12] MadMarkus: Crystal....
[13:12] Crystal: yes?
[13:13] MadMarkus: that is very encouraging to hear that you are coming to the knowledge of what the Spirit f God bears witness of and the things He does not bear witness of
[13:13] MadMarkus: inside the body of Christ which is universal....
[13:13] MadMarkus: every Word will be established by the witness (Amen) of two or three
[13:14] Mic: yes
[13:14] MadMarkus: it was very early in my walk with the God who
called me into obedience that He showed me He speaks to His body.....
[13:14] Crystal: :)
[13:14] Carol: :)
[13:14] MadMarkus: not to individuals
[13:15] MadMarkus: not meaning that He might not speak to someone
"individually", but every Word is for the body.....
[13:15] MadMarkus: for the building of it and to be openly known and
tested MadMarkus: found truthful) before the entire body by witness.
[13:15] Crystal: oh
[13:15] MadMarkus: get what I mean?
[13:15] MadMarkus: for instance.....
[13:16] MadMarkus: let's take Jeremiah
[13:16] MadMarkus: we have witness that what he spoke is the truth
[13:16] MadMarkus: BUT only when the Spirit bears witness in us.
[13:19] Crystal: oh I kinda get it
[13:19] MadMarkus: think of this.....
[13:19] MadMarkus: there is word which natural man can understand....
[13:19] MadMarkus: through the mind filter.....
[13:20] Crystal: right
[13:20] MadMarkus: however this has been touched by the fall, by deceit and by a cunning angel with great power who has assigned meanings and feelings to words that were not and are not what the Lord desires to be known
[13:21] MadMarkus: and the other is the Word
[13:21] Crystal: yes

[13:22] MadMarkus: how many "christians" will say they believe the bible is the word of God and is the basis for their walk with God?
[13:22] Crystal: hah, almost none
[13:22] MadMarkus: ummm
[13:22] MadMarkus: well they will say they do
[13:22] Crystal: well.. not the basis for their walk with God
[13:23] MadMarkus: but they will not hear the word....
[13:23] MadMarkus: let me get a verse
[13:23] Crystal: ok

[13:23] MadMarkus: kjv john 1:1-3
[13:23] * Bibble ^Kjv^ John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
[13:23] * Bibble ^Kjv^ John 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
[13:23] * Bibble ^Kjv^ John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

[13:23] MadMarkus: they say they believe the bible....
[13:23] MadMarkus: and yet if you show them that the bible itself
declares that "it" is not the Word of God......
[13:24] MadMarkus: but rather the Son of God is the Word, they will
become inflamed.

[13:24] Crystal: hm
[13:24] Crystal: oh cause they think God and the Word of God are 2
different things?
[13:24] MadMarkus: yes
[13:25] MadMarkus: and they believe they can come to a knowledge of God, not through the Son but through the scriptures
[13:25] Mic: yep
[13:25] MadMarkus: but the Word has not been polluted by man, and man's opinions
[13:26] MadMarkus: because the Word of God is and never has been translated from greek and hebrew into a book called the Holy Bible.....
[13:26] MadMarkus: rather....
[13:27] MadMarkus: The Word of God is today at the right hand of the Father and distributing Himself to God's children by the Holy Ghost.

[13:27] Mic: yes
[13:27] Crystal: that's cool
[13:27] Crystal: :)
[13:27] MadMarkus: yes it is :)
[13:28] Mic: yes
[13:28] Mic: very
[13:28] Mic: i love to hear over and over

[13:28] MadMarkus: once
[13:29] MadMarkus: I was reading through the gospel of Thomas....
[13:29] MadMarkus: and I was upset because I didn't know if it was of God, or not, or if I was being deceived in reading it etc....
[13:29] MadMarkus: and I was upset because I didn't know if it was of God, or not, or if I was being deceived in reading it etc....
[13:29] MadMarkus: and my heart became downcast, like, "how will I ever know the truth, how can I, there is so much deceit"
[13:30] MadMarkus: and the Spirit came in great power, about an hour later.....
[13:30] MadMarkus: and said "You are given one great tome MadMarkus: compilation of knowledge), and that is all that the Holy Ghost bears witness of."

[13:31] Carol: cool
[13:31] Mic: yes
[13:31] Crystal: wow
[13:31] Carol: and, because we have Him, it is all we need - without Him, it doesn't bear life, but with Him it is very cool
[13:31] MadMarkus: even the scriptures which the Holy Ghost has not testified of to me, are not yet mine to own or I would pick them up in error.

[13:31] Carol: yes
[13:32] Mic: yes
[13:32] Mic: the Word of God is not written .. it is heard
[13:33] Crystal: true
[13:33] Crystal: never realized that
[13:34] Mic: writing do not testify of men as apolstles or saints or men of stature ... the Spirit of the Lord does
[13:34] Mic: i don't my brothers by writings .. i know them by the Spirit testifying their names revealed

[13:34] Carol: yes :)
[13:35] Carol: Apostle Paul didn't say, "I am apostle because I claimed this from a book", he said, "I am an apostle appointed by God"
[13:35] Crystal: yes
[13:35] Carol: and I know that by the revelation of the Holy Spirit today. Now.
[13:35] Carol: the Lord still gives witness to this place for Apostle Paul
[13:36] MadMarkus: I really do believe you are on that path Crystal.....
[13:36] Carol: yes, so do I
[13:36] Mic: yes

[13:38] Crystal: :)
[13:38] Crystal: my greatest desire to to know and live for the Lord

[13:39] Mic: we were created to worship Him and i hope that for you also crystal
[13:39] Carol: :)
[13:39] Carol: :)
[13:39] Crystal: me too
[13:40] Mic: that is a good desire :) i beleive one He will meet

[13:41] MadMarkus: I was confronted by a spirit a few days ago.....
[13:41] MadMarkus: one that said....
[13:41] MadMarkus: "what if I have brought Crystal here, and she is not at all going to live, but to cause others to stumble....
[13:42] MadMarkus: what if she is not even of God?"
[13:42] MadMarkus: I rebuked it and said....
[13:42] MadMarkus: "I have known the witness of the WORD of God to her, and I will be glad in my heart forever that I knew that joy toward her."
[13:42] Carol: yes :)
[13:42] Mic: :) yes
[13:43] Carol: and I also know joy there today
[13:43] Crystal: :)

[13:43] MadMarkus: right now, that probably seems weird to you, spirits coming and going, speaking and laboring, right?
[13:43] Crystal: yes
[13:44] Crystal: and religion still haunts me
[13:44] MadMarkus: if you remain on this walk......
[13:44] Crystal: though I never want to return to it
[13:44] MadMarkus: in an appointed time, the Spirit will open your sight.....
[13:44] MadMarkus: I believe it is part of the baptism of the Spirit....
[13:44] MadMarkus: and you will awaken to a battle....
[13:44] MadMarkus: a war
[13:44] Carol: yes
[13:44] MadMarkus: and the enemy will also speak to you
[13:44] Mic: yes
[13:44] MadMarkus: taunting....
[13:44] MadMarkus: calling out for fights....
[13:45] MadMarkus: creating illusions....
[13:45] MadMarkus: BUT
[13:45] MadMarkus: nothing which is not allowed, even ordained by our ONE Spirit who has overcome them all
[13:45] MadMarkus: for our strengthening.
[13:45] Mic: yes
[13:45] Mic: for our refining and sharpening
[13:46] MadMarkus: If our High Priest, Christ Jesus went through
this, why do we think it odd that we should also?
[13:46] Carol: heh, yah
[13:46] Crystal: that's very true

[13:50] MadMarkus: Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
[13:50] MadMarkus: Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].
[13:50] MadMarkus: Eph 6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to ithstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
[13:51] Crystal: yes
[13:51] Crystal: amen

[13:51] MadMarkus: what is physical around you is not the real world.....
[13:51] MadMarkus: the real world is in spirit, where the Lord God, the Chiefmost of all spirits dwells.....
[13:52] MadMarkus: this world reflects that happens there....
[13:52] MadMarkus: just as this would not even be if it were not breathed from God.
[13:52] MadMarkus: this world will pass away, God will not
[13:52] Mic: yes
[13:52] MadMarkus: what is real, is what the Lord says to us who live.
[13:53] Mic: yes
[13:54] Crystal: yes
[13:54] MadMarkus: hey Crystal
[13:55] MadMarkus: Carol was sharing with me a bit of what you were talking on the phone.....
[13:55] MadMarkus: you need to know...
[13:56] MadMarkus: that if you are obedient to the Lord, there is no such thing as distance in spirit, even though you are yet in school, walking a walk on the earth which is miles and miles away.....
[13:56] MadMarkus: there is not an inch of seperation in spirit.....
[13:56] MadMarkus: and you may draw into the body, because it is not a "people", but union to the Lord
[13:56] Mic: yes
[13:56] yes
[13:56] Carol: yes
[13:57] MadMarkus: by the power of fellowship, when we spoke here the other night....
[13:57] MadMarkus: we were within inches of eachother in our hearts
[13:57] Crystal: yes
[13:57] Mic: :)
[13:57] Crystal: yes
[13:57] Mic: :)
[13:57] Carol: :)

[13:57] Crystal: and I think it would be same whether you are sitting with my physically, or talking onloine thousands of miles away
[13:57] Crystal: which was cool

[13:57] MadMarkus: yep
[13:57] Carol: yes
[13:58] Carol: though I love the times we can sit over coffee and talk until 6 am :)
[13:58] yea
[13:58] Crystal: lol
[13:58] Crystal: coffee..
[13:58] Mic: :)
[13:58] Crystal: hah, nevermind
[13:58] Crystal: was having a convo about coffee with anna on the
phone
[13:58] Carol: but the Lord desires those times for us too, when we can get together in person and enjoy fellowship
[13:58] Carol: hehe
[13:59] MadMarkus: yes

[13:59] MadMarkus: and the Lord has ordered all places for those who are in Him
[13:59] Crystal: :)
[13:59] MadMarkus: I know my place
[13:59] Mic: yes
[13:59] Carol: it is the same fellowship though :)
[13:59] MadMarkus: and I love it

Not the end of the chat, but this is getting long. :)
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