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cleolinda

SO I SAW BREAKING DAWN

Nov 19, 2011 16:02

...and it was pretty much what I expected, everything a Breaking Dawn movie had to be and could not help but be, etc. ( Read more... )

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beautifiers November 19 2011, 22:43:29 UTC

Can we just focus on the pathetic cameo Smeyer had ONCE AGAIN during the wedding scene?

ceebeegee November 19 2011, 22:48:02 UTC

Oh God! I whispered to my friend "she invited the coffee shop waitress?"

beautifiers November 19 2011, 22:52:12 UTC

I BET IT WAS BECAUSE THEY'RE BOTH VEGETARIANS. OH WAIT AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO REMEMBERED THAT WEIRD CHARACTER TRAIT? Because they clearly totally dropped it when Bella was nomming on the chicken before it was vomit-city.

ceilidh_ann November 19 2011, 22:49:06 UTC

Hey, it's her self-insert fantasy being acted out with a massive budge. Of course she'd want to witness it first hand in the most unsubtle manner possible.

beautifiers November 19 2011, 22:52:45 UTC

The way her face lit up when she saw the couple reminded me of the terrifying baby-worship we would see later with Rosalie and Bella.

just asking cause i'm curious starnightmuse November 20 2011, 03:24:42 UTC

Stan lee does the same thing in most of the movies he made the story for (spider-man, fantastic 4)

not meaning to diss either author- can someone explain what makes his okay and meyer not?

cause if you know what stan lee looks like his aren't subtle either.

Re: just asking cause i'm curious ceilidh_ann November 20 2011, 03:28:17 UTC

I think the main difference is that the Twilight series is so evidently SMeyer's wish-fulfilment fantasy, so to see her beaming with pride in the wedding scene between Bella (the representation of the average teen who just happens to look a lot like her in the detailed descriptions SMeyer provides) and Edward (her representation of the perfect man) feels a little awkward. With Stan Lee, some of his cameos can be a bit clunky but it doesn't have the same level of uncomfortable meta that SMeyer's does.

Apologies for the lack of coherence, I'm unable to sleep so I'm going a tad crazy.

Re: just asking cause i'm curious starnightmuse November 20 2011, 03:35:24 UTC

no, that makes total sense.

so it's not that the author has a cameo, it's the WHY the author has a cameo.

Re: just asking cause i'm curious notemily November 20 2011, 03:48:09 UTC

Also, SMeyer's cameos aren't funny.

Re: just asking cause i'm curious starnightmuse November 20 2011, 03:55:44 UTC

can a cameo be serious to be good too?

i mean, what if rowling have had a cameo- would that have been okay?

Re: just asking cause i'm curious notemily November 20 2011, 04:08:07 UTC

It would depend on the cameo?

To me cameos should be a sort of bonus. If you know who the person is, then it's a fun extra. If you don't, the movie still works. Like Peter Jackson's cameos in the LOTR films--he's always a side character that the camera only passes over for a moment, and if you don't know it's Peter Jackson then nothing seems out of place. If you don't know Stan Lee is Stan Lee, then it's just "funny old man saying something" and the scene still works. With SMeyer I feel like her cameos are way too focused-on, which isn't so much a cameo anymore, if you know what I mean.

Re: just asking cause i'm curious profbutters November 21 2011, 01:07:56 UTC

I always think of those as Hitchcock-y. Guy walks across the screen in front of the house, no biggie. I usually have to be told afterward that Stan Lee was [fill in the blank, some guy] and then I think "oooooh, that's what that was."

Re: just asking cause i'm curious cmdr_zoom November 20 2011, 09:32:05 UTC

FWIW, I think a lot of people have reached or passed the eye-rolling stage for him, too.

"Yes, Stan. We see you. Now get out of the shot so we can get on with the movie."

cleolinda November 19 2011, 22:49:44 UTC

It's like they invited God to their wedding, it was awful. Like, just put her in the background or something, don't put in a lingering closeup that rips the fabric of fictional time and space.

beautifiers November 19 2011, 22:53:28 UTC

Exactly! She could have been standing near Bella's parents so that when we got a shot of them, she'd be someone to the side. Someone you have to LOOK for instead of seeing her face loom the hell up right at us.

Lastly: fuck all those anti-choice overtones. Just. Fuck them.

cleolinda November 19 2011, 22:59:26 UTC

The anti-choice business got really, really weird. Like, it's a valid point that it's a woman's choice to keep the baby as well, although I don't know that this is quite the most endangered right IRL. But sure. It was when Edward was like, "What about MY choice to make you KILL THE BABY?!" that was like, bzuh? There are some really brain-breaking ways to describe that whole conversation--Bella's pro-life AND pro-choice! Edward's anti-choice AND pro-abortion!

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