Hannibal 1x12: "Relevés"

Jun 15, 2013 22:26

BEFORE THE SHOW

@cleolinda: I am straight-up drinking through tonight's episode. #SOEXCITED #SOSCARED

AFTER THE SHOW

@cleolinda: I'm not okay, you guys, everything is terrible, I'm not okaaaaaay, oh God I can't wait to recap this

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blackcatmoebius June 16 2013, 04:13:07 UTC
Crawford: "Let's play Jeopardy, shall we?" (Jimmy gives him a hilariously eager look in response.)

That cracked me up.

"The answer is that these people were killed by the copycat, who's connected to Garrett Jacob Hobbs. You tell me how." Brian: "You mean beyond the application of supposition and unexplained leaps?" "I've been yearning for a return to the fundamentals of investigation!" cries Jimmy.

Two things:
1) Brian's cheap shot at Will's usual methods is hardly surprising, given what we've seen of those two interacting, but I was surprised that Jimmy joined in.

2) They're all like, '"Let's do some real investigating instead of all this supposition"... but they seem to accept Will's supposition that all these copycat kills are done by the same person without any qualms.
It made a bit more sense (albeit weird sense) for Crawford... he at first thought the 'single copycat theory' meant that Will had gone off the deep end, until he tied it to his 'Abigail is guilty' theory.

On another note.... Cleolinda, these recaps are amazing. I just fed the tip jar.

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cleolinda June 16 2013, 04:45:20 UTC
Aw, thank you! I hadn't wanted to mention The Jar because that seemed a bit too much like making money off the show.

Brian's cheap shot at Will's usual methods is hardly surprising, given what we've seen of those two interacting, but I was surprised that Jimmy joined in.

I had a "Y'ALL JUS JELLUS" line that I took out because the recap was going SOOOO LONG (because this episode was almost ENTIRELY DIALOGUE OMG). But yeah. I get it, though--kind of like the only thing worse than Mulder having a new crackpot paranormal theory every week was Mulder always being right. And honestly? All of that business with the tickets and hotel rooms? They should have ALREADY BEEN DOING THAT weeks and weeks ago. I actually kind of took it as a comment that Crawford may have run Will into the ground because it was quicker to just throw him at a crime scene than it was to have everybody else do painstaking, time-consuming legwork.

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blackcatmoebius June 16 2013, 05:21:20 UTC
Well, you basically got me to watch the show - on nbc.com, which has commercials - so they're getting (ad) money too. (Or would that be, 'ad eyeballs'?)

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lonelywalker June 16 2013, 05:50:50 UTC
everybody else do painstaking, time-consuming legwork
AS we saw in episode 1, Crawford seems to literally have a team of Will + 3 lab geeks + 2 psychiatrists who honestly shouldn't be near this stuff at all, let alone paying house calls on suspected serial killers.

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cleolinda June 16 2013, 06:14:07 UTC
Heh. And even in this episode, Jimmy says something about grabbing a couple of clerks to help this time around.

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lonelywalker June 16 2013, 06:48:23 UTC
I'm surprised Jack didn't try to recruit Bedelia while he was there.

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cleolinda June 16 2013, 06:12:50 UTC
ARGH MY UNCLOSED ITALICS TAG

I'm okay, I'm fine, no really

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jubilantia June 16 2013, 07:10:23 UTC
Jumping in to add that donations are voluntary and probably ok, and you should totally be getting some kind of kickback for these, they are MASTERFUL.

Also heh on Crawford being lazy. It's kind of terrible to watch him come to all the wrong conclusions; it makes him look like a bad investigator. Even without the dramatic irony angle, he's so hung up on previous theories, all "but you SAID it was this way, why are you changing now?" that it seems like he is not that good at his job.

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meleth June 17 2013, 00:34:11 UTC
And he's so convinced of his own righteous infallibility that he has no problem going from "I think you and I will have to agree to disagree about who Will Graham is" to "you haven't know Will long enough to be sure that he's not a crazed killer."

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cleolinda June 17 2013, 03:12:12 UTC
One of the bits I cut to keep the recap from getting obscenely long was pointing out that DIDN'T CRAWFORD JUST MEET WILL AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SERIES ANYWAY? Like, I think he had some prior awareness of Will, but literally the second scene of the show was Crawford introducing himself? And then one crime scene later, they brought Lecter in? SO THEY HAVE BASICALLY KNOWN WILL THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME, except that Lecter is also Will's therapist. Crawford needs to reexamine his boss choices, is my point.

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gestalt1 June 18 2013, 12:59:33 UTC
I suppose you could take it as Will being a sort of FBI/BAU urban legend, like there's a whole bunch of office gossip around him so that even if they've only ever passed each other in the coridoors he and Jack know each other sufficiently by reputation.

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cleolinda June 17 2013, 03:06:10 UTC
Heh, thanks. I don't have an ethical problem with the tip jar quietly being there per se; I'd just rather mention it on something like a Varney the Vampyre recap and not a current TV show.

(I also feel like the recap writing and posting and discussing is its own reward, really, but it'll also be nice to cover the cost of the season pass on iTunes.)

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gestalt1 June 18 2013, 13:00:57 UTC
Also, although I may be remembering this wrong, Will never initally thought it made sense that Nick Boyle was the killer or that the copy-cat was dead, he just had to admit that the evidence over-ruled him. So Crawford is incorrect here anyway, which makes it worse.

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jubilantia June 18 2013, 16:20:07 UTC
It's almost like Crawford is somehow both too passionate and too bureaucratic about things. He's always annoyed when the answer changes or isn't easy or obvious, and I can give him a certain amount of that, but this guy's doing your job for you! It just comes across as him being terrible.

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almostnever June 20 2013, 20:49:52 UTC
I think in a meta sense that's why Jack gets to be right about Abigail-- so that there's at least one big instance where Jack gets it right when everyone else is getting it wrong.

Also, he runs the Behavioral Science unit, he must have other teams working on other cases, along with all the stuff we see this particular team working on. It would be nice if we got more of a sense of that. From what they put in the show, it comes off like behavior science is solely devoted to tracking down artsy baroque serial killers, but I'm pretty sure that unit's tasked with profiling a lot of crimes that cross state lines, serial rapes and robberies, not just murders; and they review a lot of stuff along the lines of "are these unsolved murders that just happen to be similar, or is this a serial killer?" Makes it more understandable that Jack doesn't always have his finger on the pulse of all Will's cases.

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cleolinda June 20 2013, 21:04:57 UTC
Which is true, yeah. And I am glad Crawford does get to have some instincts that are correct--like the time he also looked around Lecter's wrecked office and went, "Yeahhhh, something about this is weird."

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