Hannibal 1x04: "Oeuf" (again) (some more) (and Red Dragon)

May 01, 2013 21:54

AT SOME POINT I WILL WRITE ABOUT SOMETHING OTHER THAN CANNIBALS, DAMN.(How about vampyres? You guys like vampyres ( Read more... )

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barbayat May 2 2013, 03:21:20 UTC
HELL HATH NO FURY LIKE A CANNIBAL SCORNED. This gon' be good.
Oh yes, by making it personal it becomes so much more.

The more episodes I see the more I want this to run season after season, the more I hope they use just enough of the books to make it recognisable but otherwise go with how the characters are established in the show (if that makes any sense).

And yes, I don't think Fuller wants us to think too hard about timelines or little details on the serial killer of the week - it just seems to be there as a framework so the characters have something new to talk about :D

24 hours for the next dosage of my new favourite drug :D

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cleolinda May 2 2013, 03:25:42 UTC
And yes, I don't think Fuller wants us to think too hard about timelines or little details on the serial killer of the week - it just seems to be there as a framework so the characters have something new to talk about :D

I really don't want to be one of Those People who nitpick everything! I don't like those people! It's just really, really hard to describe what's happening to people (some of whom aren't watching the actual show) if you have no idea when any of this is happening!

The more episodes I see the more I want this to run season after season, the more I hope they use just enough of the books to make it recognisable but otherwise go with how the characters are established in the show (if that makes any sense).Yeah, I would be really interested to see it take a life of its own--that idea of the new elements rippling into the future--while still hitting most of the key points in the books. And, honestly, probably a ton that there wasn't time in the movies for--that'll be really interesting, seeing a book adapted over ( ... )

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barbayat May 2 2013, 13:07:00 UTC
I don't think you are nitpicking, I just felt the same confusion while watching. It was like, what when is this happening, how did they get there ... eventually it was like, okay Fuller, I get it, it's not important ...

a life of its own--that idea of the new elements rippling into the future--while still hitting most of the key points in the books.

Thanks, yes, that describes much better and precisely what I meant. I would not even be mad if MGM does not give out the rights for Silence characters, I am sure Fuller could come up with something equally brilliant for his future-reboot

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laura47 June 8 2013, 01:10:37 UTC
the show is so dreamy/nightmarey that I just try to go with dream logic for those logistics that don't match up... (jumping on late to the hannibal train!)

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cleolinda May 2 2013, 05:43:25 UTC
Now, I think it airs in Canada (?) a day early? NBC's airing it tomorrow as usual.

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Re: cleolinda May 2 2013, 06:09:14 UTC
Yeah, I watch hardly any TV either (though I should). Bryan Fuller tweeted that it would be on tomorrow, and he always live tweets through it, so if it had aired in the U.S., I would have noticed. And now that I have the whole season on iTunes, I guess it would have become available if it had run already.

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barbayat May 2 2013, 13:04:18 UTC
Thanks for the hint, I got it ;) Hopefully I don't overdose :D

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evilstorm May 2 2013, 09:39:56 UTC
Thirding the personal, yes. I've always read Hannibal as being capable of affection and emotion, not just flat affect...so it would be pretty HALE YEAH to see how that plays out.

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barbayat May 2 2013, 11:47:17 UTC
I actually think by feeling something, it makes the character not just more interesting but more scary. It elevates him out of the simple predictable psycho who just has this brain defect and can't feel to something truly dangerous.

We will see how that turns out.

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evilstorm May 2 2013, 14:07:17 UTC
My thoughts exactly! We often assume that the emotionless psycho is only that way because of his defect, and that's why he's psycho. Imagine if he's not; there's no reason we can give for his murderous rampaging; he's just an entirely different breed of human with a mind that works in alien ways. Now that's scary.

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cleolinda May 2 2013, 14:30:25 UTC
Yeah, in Red Dragon, Will is actually explaining to someone that (well, the book's right here, let me look it up) "he has no remorse or guilt at all. And he had the first and worst sign--sadism to animals as a child" (there's that line). "But he doesn't have any of the other marks [of a sociopath].... He wasn't shallow and exploitative in small things, like most sociopaths are. He's not insensitive.... He's a monster. I think of him as one of those pitiful things that are born in hospitals from time to time. They feed it, and keep it warm, but they don't put it on the machines and it dies. Lecter is the same way in his head, but he looks normal and nobody could tell."

The "pitiful things born in hospitals" actually turns out to be part of the other killer's background, so that may be a little "coincidentally" pointed there. And kind of insensitive on Will's part, but there you are.

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evilstorm May 3 2013, 10:12:39 UTC
I liked that he ?loved? his sister. It's hella scary to think of that cold intellect, cruel as a cat and even more callous, tied to all the passions of love.

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cleolinda May 2 2013, 14:01:33 UTC
Yeah, he's terrifying enough when he barely even knows the people he goes after. Additionally, imagine if Abigail 1) does something and gets caught, 2) does something and gets killed, or 3) betrays him. AW HALE.

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evilstorm May 2 2013, 14:08:26 UTC
Betrayal is the rudest.

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