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tamlover March 17 2011, 22:55:31 UTC
For me this is one of the weaker episodes, based on acting as well as plot. Haven't watched it in a while, so if any of my responses are inaccurate, I apologize.

Pretty odd sort of "camp." It does kinda look like a summer camp for adults, not a vacation spot. But HULA HOOPS!
We didn't get to see much of it - in concept it reminded me a little of the place in Dirty Dancing.

Okay, so you're fine having a gun waved in your face, but an egg hatches and THEN you scream? Mel...priorities, woman. Priorities.
Yes, weird. I thought of when Fielding (I think) said they used to get told to scream at the end up episodes. And here, there's really no reason for it.

...I REALLY hope that's not meant to be a chunk of human flesh that Gavrok's gnawing on right now.
I never got that impression, but I may have to rewatch to check on it now. :)

So these two American agents seem to be almost completely separate from the main plot. Are they going to be relevant anytime soon?

I mean, they're not bothering me or anything, but we're almost halfway through the serial and all they've done is search for the satellite.
I know, they do seem shoe-horned in. They don't really engage me, to be honest. I do like the bee keeper, though.

"I shall ask my bees. They know everything that happens!" Because if Ten is to be believed, most of them are aliens already.
I thought of the alien bees, too, the first time I saw this serial.

I can tell that Sylv hasn't quite worked out his Chessmaster persona yet. There's still a bit of a goofy edge whenever he tries to be Srys.
I'm in the minority that I don't like creepy, manipulative Seven. Manipulating your enemies is on thing, your companions (regularly) is another. And I don't like supposedly "gray" heroes - they usually just seem like hypocrites and practical baddies to me. Which is a reason I won't read a lot of the Virgin novels - some of them sound like the Doctor is a practical monster and he does things way past what the Doctor would ever do in the show and seems out of character.

But, as far as it goes, I think Two in "The Evil of the Daleks" stands up to pretty well as his manipulation of his companions goes. And I'm thinking "The Abominable Snowmen" is great example of him doing the same to his enemies, but I only remember the novel there - not sure I've even seen the recon.

Like, when did the transmitter get on Billy's motorbike?
I thought there was a comment earlier about one of the shots/explosives fired being a dud and that's when the transmitter got there. But I could be mixing it up with a dozen shows there.

Next: Dragonfire
I expected to like that one because I like Ace, but uh, no. And there's definitely one scene there where SA's acting is not up to snuff. Or maybe it's just that it's such a cringworthy line . . .

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tamlover March 17 2011, 23:14:21 UTC
Meant to say "The Web of Fear" not "The Abominable Snowmen" - oops.

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classicwhoblog March 18 2011, 04:49:16 UTC
The slab of meat looks more like raw pig than human, but Gavrok had shown himself to be enough of a monster at that point that it very well could have been human flesh.

I think the bee-keeper's name was Goronwy. I liked him too, he was cool. If I remember the InfoText correctly, he was meant to be a character very in-tune with nature and someone representative of romantic Welsh mythology.

I have my aversions to chessmaster!Seven too, but I'm willing to forgive him when he still shows his compassionate side from time to time. Of course, the only NA novel I've read so far is Human Nature and the Doctor wasn't the Doctor for most of that.

I actually won't be covering Dragonfire for a while...

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tamlover March 18 2011, 22:32:44 UTC
My favorite Seven is when he's saying "Aces are rare" or doing that affectionate nose-touchy thing he does with both Mel and Ace. When we see the better side of his relationship with his companions, really.

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