Unfortunately, if the excerpts I've read of Blue Box Boy are anything to go by, Tom Baker did a LOT of shouting around this time anyway. Maybe that's why Bidmead wrote that line?
No, Nyssa! Stay with Adric! Don't listen to the creepy voice calling your name even though it sounds exactly like your father! Considering she's been looking for Tremas and that the reason for her trip to Logopolis was to ask the Doctor for help in finding him, it was inevitable that she'd follow the sound of his voice.
But wouldn't "have a nice trip" imply that she knew someone aboard could fly the TARDIS and get her home without the Doctor's help? I always saw it as Tegan falling into air-hostess mode, but you have a point there...
Nyssa looks (and sounds) strangely indignant that the Watcher wants to talk to Adric and not her. Well, she has talked with the Watcher before (offscreen) and travelled with him to Logopolis, so it would be understandable for her to feel ignored.
Wow. Nyssa, I think you might hold THE record for emotional recovery from seeing
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I'm still amazed that the evil cackling and youthful face didn't at least start to tip her off...
Ohhhh yes, I remember that scene in The Ten Doctors. I was grinning quite a bit from the awesome.
It's nice seeing the regeneration scenes in context instead of in montages like I've done, and I did love that final pan over his broken body before his companions rush to his side.
She was too desperately happy to see her father again that she missed the blatantly obvious. I expected more of Nyssa, really, but at the same time this helps make me even sadder for her.
It was only when I watched the documentary on regenerations from the War Games DVD that I realized the camera pans over Five's body in a similar way in The Caves of Androzani. It's not specified if this was done on purpose, so I now have something to ask Graeme Harper if I ever get lucky enough to meet him.
It's a really interesting documentary, basically featuring Peter Davison, Kate O'Mara and a few New Who writers talking about the first nine regenerations (since this was pre-EoT) and what went wrong or right in each. When my 8-year-old cousins became interested in Doctor Who, I showed them this to help them understand how the Doctor kept changing his face.
Yes, they discuss how the thought of having a regeneration was put aside from the very beginning because everybody involved in the revamping of the show had "learned the lesson" from the TV movie (the Seven-to-Eight regeneration seems to be the least liked by those involved not because of the regeneration in itself but because of the storyline and how little of Eight they feel there is because of it). The claim is that showing Nine already regenerated helped those unfamiliar with the classic series to connect with the Doctor from the very first second, and made the long-time fans intrigued with what might have happened between the movie and Rose. There was also a side-by-side comparison of Four and Nine checking themselves in the mirror in Robot and Rose, and (I think) Gareth Roberts saying that was the closest they were willing to go to showing anything close to a regeneration for Nine.
In a weird way, I liked Seven's regeneration because his death was so crazy-intense. I also seem to remember reading somewhere that RTD wouldn't allow any pre-New-Who depictions of Nine without Rose. Of course, now that he's gone...
There definitely shouldn't be any pre-Rose Nine depictions, IMO. He clearly just regenerated - hadn't even looked in a mirror yet, judging from the dialog. Plus, Nine is just so raw, it has to be fresh. This is healing (somewhat) from the Time War. Oh, and as regenerations are a fit topic for this episodes, I absolutely *loved* the Nine-to-Ten death. Really liked Five-to-Six as well. Those are the two best to me. I strongly disliked Ten-to-Eleven, and, alas, Four-to-Five here did nothing for me. I did like Seven-to-Eight, though. Wish I could see the first regeneration properly, though, instead of just as a recon.
The dialogue suggests that he hasn't looked in a mirror, and yet that guy with the conspiracy website has all those photos of him as Nine, which would suggest that he's been like that for a while. I'm still confused about that, especially since the contradicting evidence is in the same episode.
Five-to-Six was amazing, but also very disturbing. I find it interesting the similarities between Four's and Five's regenerations. They both die...
- With their newly-acquired next-incarnation companion(s) with them - With illusions of taunting villains and encouraging past companions (which they play hopefully in Logopolis and ominously in Androzani)
Those photos don't mean he's been in that form for a while - they mean he'll end up in Earth's past (relative to that date) in that form at some time. It's in his future, but Earth's past. At least, that's how I took it. The only issue is that he's the only one noticed repeatedly (not his companions), but to me it's still easier to go with that than with him having been around a while since regenerating.
Maybe that's why Bidmead wrote that line?
No, Nyssa! Stay with Adric! Don't listen to the creepy voice calling your name even though it sounds exactly like your father!
Considering she's been looking for Tremas and that the reason for her trip to Logopolis was to ask the Doctor for help in finding him, it was inevitable that she'd follow the sound of his voice.
But wouldn't "have a nice trip" imply that she knew someone aboard could fly the TARDIS and get her home without the Doctor's help?
I always saw it as Tegan falling into air-hostess mode, but you have a point there...
Nyssa looks (and sounds) strangely indignant that the Watcher wants to talk to Adric and not her.
Well, she has talked with the Watcher before (offscreen) and travelled with him to Logopolis, so it would be understandable for her to feel ignored.
Wow. Nyssa, I think you might hold THE record for emotional recovery from seeing ( ... )
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Ohhhh yes, I remember that scene in The Ten Doctors. I was grinning quite a bit from the awesome.
It's nice seeing the regeneration scenes in context instead of in montages like I've done, and I did love that final pan over his broken body before his companions rush to his side.
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It was only when I watched the documentary on regenerations from the War Games DVD that I realized the camera pans over Five's body in a similar way in The Caves of Androzani. It's not specified if this was done on purpose, so I now have something to ask Graeme Harper if I ever get lucky enough to meet him.
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Five-to-Six was amazing, but also very disturbing. I find it interesting the similarities between Four's and Five's regenerations. They both die...
- With their newly-acquired next-incarnation companion(s) with them
- With illusions of taunting villains and encouraging past companions (which they play hopefully in Logopolis and ominously in Androzani)
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