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nentari May 31 2010, 21:11:09 UTC
Over here is the very opposite - the oldest the books, the bigger the chance to find them in a library. These particular translations were published in 1983, which is actually rather recent.

Eek, I've read The World Shapers - I think it can be found in Jamie's fan community - and I've been trying to erase it from my memory ever since, it's so devastating. I think the big reason why I started to write Doctor Who fics was to give Jamie a completely opposite future from the one presented in those comics - and I'm glad Big Finish went that way as well. But yeah, it was definitely made after The Two Doctors, as it's implied that Jamie recognizes Six as the Doctor without needing any explanation.

Oh wow, that is amazing! Very Gilbert & Sullivan. :D (And I had a really geeky reaction at the fact that Tobias Vaughn - my favourite Who villain, even more than the Master - and Mavic Chen were mentioned in the same verse, since they were both played by the same actor.)
Which reminds me - have you ever listened to Doctor in Distress? Nevermind, I've seen you did. :P

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classicwhoblog May 31 2010, 21:48:34 UTC
One of the things I love about my college library is that they actually have really old books there in addition to lots of new stuff. I love glancing around the shelves and seeing something really old and looking for the date. I think the oldest I've seen was published in 1825, or something like that (I wish I could remember what the actual book was...it might've been an almanac).

I haven't actually read The Worldshapers because I found it in a comic store and was just browsing at the time, but I remember the one image that stuck in my mind is when Jamie has a breakdown after he realizes that the Doctor has finally come back and Six just hugs him and I was all ;____;

Oh Big Finish, you and your awesomeness WHICH I MUST OBTAIN. Also, what story is Tobias Vaughn from?

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nentari May 31 2010, 22:00:33 UTC
Yeah, as a bibliophile (and a qualified librarian, though I never had the chance to work on the subject beyond a small internship) I really love that sort of stuff.

That moment stuck in my mind most of all and refuses to leave - and it all goes downhill from that point on, I'm afraid. :(

Vaughn is the lead baddie in Two's The Invasion. He is a manipulative, calculating bastard and has the most amazing voice and he and his henchman clearly have a thing going on.

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classicwhoblog May 31 2010, 22:38:10 UTC
There seemed to be varying levels of subtext between about half the baddies and their henchmen in The Key to Time stories...

From my Ribos Operation commentary: "Awwwww. Despite his greedy jerkassery, he still loved his general. ...no seriously, he just kissed him twice before leaving his body behind."

The Pirate Planet: "I love how some Classic Who villains will yell at their right-hand men constantly and then get really sad when they die."

"Actually...this happened in Ribos Operation too...is that another trend?"

"And the Captain is still carrying Mr. Fibuli's glasses! Awww..."

The Androids of Tara: "The scientist is in love with Grendel? What's the betting that she's the right-hand-(wo)man who gets mourned by the Big Bad when s/he dies?"

"Woah. Okay. He actually kissed her."

"CALLED IT. CALLED. IT. Okay, so Grendel isn't exactly mourning over her body, but he is PISSED that she's dead."

A large part of the fun of doing these commentaries is noticing stuff like that.

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nentari May 31 2010, 22:42:43 UTC
Well, the subtext in Androids of Tara is practically text, since that serial is a sci-fi remake of The Prisoner of Zenda where those two characters were explicitly lovers. :P But yeah, I can see what you mean. The Key to Time double-acts were a little less subtle than Vaughn/Packer, which exists mostly on the viewer's imagination (and the fact that Vaughn unexplainably keeps Packer alive while killing anyone who screws up even less than he does).

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classicwhoblog May 31 2010, 23:00:23 UTC
*looks up "Prisoner of Zenda"* Aha! And now I know.

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