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Oct 04, 2007 11:47

So far, from one of the people I complained to at PSI:

"It is, in my mind, entirely possible (even probable) that race plays no role in her comments at all."

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I don't even know how to respond.  

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nerak_g October 4 2007, 16:53:16 UTC
*bangs head on desk*

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nerak_g October 4 2007, 17:00:50 UTC
white people need to accept that they're racist.oh, this drives me batty.regardless of who said what (and we all know hell is paved with intentions, so even if it wasn't intended as racist---HELLO it was TAKEN that way), just look at WHAT was said.there's racism in it.white people DON'T GET TO DECIDE WHAT'S RACIST!!! hi, i'm white and i'm saying this---we just aren't "there" yet.once something is taken as racist, whatever it is or however it's veiled, it should be dealt with respectfully.that's just how the fuck it is in our historicalblahblahmoment.
hasn't anyone had sociology 101?

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it's like citizenwind October 4 2007, 17:18:14 UTC
Chinese Guy: That white person is racist!

White Judge: ...Not according to white people.

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Re: it's like nerak_g October 4 2007, 17:24:15 UTC
right. 'cause white isn't a race and being white means being terrified of being called a racist. dialog can't even START without stopping and asking why.instead of being dismissive, ask the fuckin' why.meet people where they are. why is this so hard?
AAARRRRRGH

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Re: it's like citizenwind October 4 2007, 17:30:09 UTC
I want to be unrelenting. I want it stir up a shitstorm and bury this woman. I want to say that there's no way I'll stop until she's removed and humiliated, because frankly, that's what she deserves.

But I'm tired. The discussion about this, which now spans four blogs, along with the initial PSI response, completely drain me. It makes my heart feel so heavy to feel so wronged and hurt only to hear that it's unlikely much can be done about this.

I may or may not post the full response later. If anything, I do need help tackling these complex arguments, but it seems inappropriate to bring this to a public forum while it's being officially considered.

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flightviolation October 4 2007, 17:01:41 UTC
SUCH bullshit

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citizenwind October 4 2007, 17:11:02 UTC
My love,

I hope if anything, the original letter and this response (for reference, from a white male) helps clarify why I have such a suspicion and animosity towards elements of white society, and why I have no many (occasionally ignorant) feelings about whites.

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flightviolation October 4 2007, 19:22:33 UTC
if there is a way i can help, i want to.

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citizenwind October 4 2007, 19:32:54 UTC
i think over time, now that we realize we disagree on these issues so widely, we'll be able to slowly discuss and build. we got really heated about a heated topic -- very unsurprisingly -- but i look forward to construction with you.

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conditionbronze October 4 2007, 18:38:33 UTC
Wow. Just... wow.

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citizenwind October 4 2007, 18:50:08 UTC
though it's hard to believe, the rest of the e-mail is much worse.

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Woah, Nelly... delrica October 4 2007, 19:43:56 UTC
Before writing PSi off as not giving a flying fuck, give them an opportunity to investigate.

So far, they've got your complaint (a legal, legitimate complaint, mind you) that was filed less than 24 hours ago. Let them do the investigation and get their final say before saying they don't give a flying fuck.

If I'm reading that response correctly, the person that responded to you said in THEIR mind, not in PSi's mind.

Those investigating consist of more than that one person or their thoughts. Are definitely comprised of more than just white people (re: Karen's comment about white folks being racist).

That's how bad press gets spread. If I believed everything I heard about you without getting your side first, that would make me an asshole for believing only one side of the story right?

It's the same deal here. So let's take a step back and breathe. I'm hoping that not only do they investigate, they come up with more then a flippant "I don't give a flying fuck" response.

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citizenwind October 4 2007, 19:48:53 UTC
that's fair. i've taken down that statement.

delrica, am I "allowed" to post what i was sent me on my blog? i am floored by how outrageous the response I received was. can we also backchannel?

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delrica October 4 2007, 20:07:00 UTC
To save on drama, I wouldn't post anything more. It's officially been delivered to the proper places and is now considered an ongoing investigation.

To post anything would just add unnecessary drama (remember that whole Tempe thing? Yeah...the posts across the boards/forums/LJ/myspace are just finished dying down and that was from legitimate avenues of investigation).

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theklute October 4 2007, 20:10:15 UTC
What Tempe thing?

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