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[cicipsychobunny]

Okay, so this week is developing a theme, and I want to put some things out there.

I know you all know me, and love me, and care about me, and think I'm awesome and hot and all that jazz.

Comments

[syn_abounds]

WARNING, WALL O' TEXT AHEAD:

Look, you know, you're right, diets don't work when you are cutting out an entire food group or doing faddy things like the Atkins diet or chugging a bottle of vinegar a week to "speed up your metabolism" or whatever. You're right, they don't work because once you've reached the goal weight or whatever, or even before then, you go back to your old eating habits.

But when you change your eating habits and make this a permanent change, in the way that both Taryn and I have, this is not unhealthy and it does work. It is not a fad diet. It is not some bullshit depriving-yourself-of-everything-nice thing. This is eating healthy and eating better and eating less. This is eating your recommended daily intake. This is figuring out what ratios of proteins to carbs to vegetables works best for your body. And that DOES work.

These blogs that you are linking to are pretty much all concerned with fad diets to lose another 10 pounds or whatever. THOSE DO NOT WORK. You'll find no argument there from me.

But you are wrong when you say that all the weight will come back in five years. How can it when I am actually eating enough vegetables for the first time in my life? How can it when I'm not overeating? How can it when I actually have a healthy diet and listen to what my body is telling me? What your blogs say makes no sense in this context.

I wasn't going to weigh in on this debate because, as I said earlier today, perhaps we'd have to agree to disagree. But what you said to Taryn was wrong. It's just not true.

Also, I resent you implying that the only reason that people lose weight is because they are conditioned to hate themselves. I made the decision to lose weight because I was not happy. I couldn't fit the clothes I wanted to, I couldn't walk up hills as fast as I wanted to, my skin wasn't as good, my mood was terrible because my food was all out of whack. I'm not saying that everyone else should lose weight because that's their own damn business. But it seemed like you were saying that no one should ever make an effort to lose weight and if you do, you're just giving in to The Man. And that's sad and incorrect.

[megapope]

Pretty much what Syn said, though I should add that my own perspective is that of a guy who got diabetes from being overweight, and who knows what being miserable in his own body is like.

I don't doubt for a second that part of my misery came from social pressures and all that jazz, but at the same time, as I keep the weight loss going, I just feel better, and it's not any kind of self righteous 'not one of the fattys any more' thing going on.

[poor_toms_acold]

Thanks for being more eloquent than I was! This is what I meant, but I got tangled up in words :-S

[jessikast]

Hear hear! Your reasons are pretty much exactly the same as mine for losing weight, and I know that a lot of what I am doing is changing habits - habits about having snacks (even though I wasn't hungry), habits about if I decide to exercise or not. And it does work long term.

I know that I'm never going to be skinny - I can't actually imagine what I would look like should I achieve my "goal weight", which seems hilariously low. I like having boobs and hips and a butt. And I like having those hips and butt fit into my favourite jeans so I don't need to go and spend money on more!

[cicipsychobunny]

I refuse to "agree to disagree" when I've provided factual information and you've chosen to read it a certain way.

But right now I'm frankly feeling fat and ugly and grotesque and being surrounded by people who are frankly telling me that despite everything being fat is still *my* fault and *I'm* the one who won't just face reality is not fucking helping.

[morbane]

I think a relevant point is that it may be possible to change.

But the reason to change is highly personal, may or may not be mandated by health reasons (surely not in your case) and is being pushed by society in an irrational fashion.

Why the damn should you change if you don't have to? Well. You can change. But you don't have to.

In other news, I went and checked my bra size today, and have put on enough weight in the last few months to go up a cup size AND a clothing size, and feel depressed.

Let's all agree that the cause of my distress is based on no logical fact yet analysed by the SSar.