Am I serious about my religion?

Jan 12, 2004 11:04

Some preliminary notes: This essay is in response to concerns raised to me privately. I have not identified the persons making the statements. Please don't ask. The reason it is posted here is that I have received similar (though less vehement) statements in the past, and I want to clear up a lot of misconception.Three statements have been raised ( Read more... )

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Il-liturgy tosk January 12 2004, 18:57:12 UTC
WARNING: I am not a happy fluffy bunny pagan. I may say things that will hurt the feelings of others. Tough. If you don't want your feelings hurt, or your bubble busted, then don't read this post. Hail Eris!
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One must learn how to write liturgies? One must be taught how to create a ritual? Ha! Who taught the ADF Bards? Did they find a super secret book of Druidic Skalds? Last time I checked there were no surviving writings of the Druids from B.C. You see, at some point (in the not terribly distant past (hrmmm 1963ish?)) someone made this stuff up. Just like Christianity, Wiccan, Discordianism, Buddhism, Thelemic magic, Zen, Tao, Hindu etc etc etc... until the end of the multiverse.

Perhaps some feel the need to corner the market, as the clergy class of Christendom does. After all, if everyone wrote their own spiritual rituals, they might do something heartfelt, instead of by rote, they might not believe exactly the same thing as everyone else! Dear Goddess! What ever would happen then?! Could you imagine a world where people would commune with their deity of choice and not stick their nose into their neighbors choice of communing? Perish the thought!

And here is why I do not associate with the PSA or any 'organized' group of pagans. Invariably, the ugly face of Dogma rears its head and lays to waste any logical thinking that might go on. We suddenly hear the word 'is' instead of 'maybe', there are things that are definitely "right or wrong", instead of simply 'possible'.

Those arguments, to me, appear as nothing more than a waste of thought processes. None of us can truly know 'the answers'. We may have some good ideas, we may have things that work for us personally... but who can truly and honestly say more?

The dogmatic individual has plenty of arguments to support their belief, "You aren't as well educated as you must be to understand the truth like I do", "You are too young to understand the truth like I do", "You are not serious enough to understand the truth like I do". I heard all of those growing up in the Christian faith and I hear them from the waterless clouds that proclaim knowledge of the esoteric.

There are two very apt statements taken from the Principia Discordia that I would like to close with:

Everything Is True. Everything Is False. Everything Is Meaningless.

and

The Words Of The Foolish And The Words Of The Wise, Are Not Far Apart In Discordian Eyes.

Feel Free To Disagree,

Ratatosk, Squirrel of Discord
Chatterer of The Words of Eris
Muncher of the ChaoAcorn
POEE of The Great Googlie Mooglie Cabal

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Re: just to clarify tosk January 12 2004, 19:27:05 UTC
You are free to believe it on whatever level you like...

Me personally? I believe exactly what I said. Everything is True, Everything Is False and Everything Is Meaningless.

Adding 'In Some Sense' qualifies reality. I believe that a thing can be completely irrevokably true in every sense to one person, while at the same time completely false to another person, and utterly meaningless to yet a third person. The fourth person may find it to have some true, some false and some meaningless statements.

Feel Free To Disagree,

'Tosk

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Re: just to clarify tosk January 12 2004, 20:10:51 UTC
Ah, now there is sense!

:)

And I won't even make you take a class to express your thoughts on the subject.

'Tosk

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