Hinduism isn't Vedism, sorry

Jun 05, 2007 13:25

Hmm. . . Do I send my post in response to "Vedic and Hindu is really the same thing" to the public list, or do I not ( Read more... )

adf, vedic, shenannigan shillelagh, stupidity

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tanrinia June 5 2007, 18:05:26 UTC
is that on discuss?

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weavingfire June 5 2007, 18:21:24 UTC
It's on ADF-Druidry

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tanrinia June 5 2007, 18:41:39 UTC
cool...i'll wait 'til the dust settles and read the archives :)

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qorinda June 5 2007, 19:56:57 UTC
Me too

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chronarchy June 5 2007, 18:26:48 UTC
Druidry.

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tanrinia June 5 2007, 18:47:31 UTC
i'm not familiar with the term "scholarship bomb." could that potentially be followed up with Ian's motto "because you might fuckin' learn something?"

you could always post it here...

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Well, fine then! chronarchy June 5 2007, 18:55:14 UTC
Sorry, but I don't buy it. It's far too reductionistic, for one thing. Buddhism and Jainism both derive from Vedism, as well, but it's astounding how different they look from both Vedism and Hinduism. If you're going to say that a religion is the same as the one it evolved from, you've got to take the whole cart. I'm terribly uncomfortable with referring to all these religions as "Vedism ( ... )

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Re: Well, fine then! chronarchy June 5 2007, 21:30:06 UTC
ADF-Druidry has both members and non-members, so I generally consider it "lighter fare" in terms of what folk can handle, scholarship-wise, and try my best to be as light and welcoming as possible, and this piece just isn't that, really.

It's probably about just right for a non-scholarly all-member list, but to a list that generally presents our "face" to a lot of people, I figure it's a bit over the top.

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Re: Well, fine then! spottedtoad June 5 2007, 22:21:02 UTC
It's not over the top at all. If that list is presenting our "face" to the people, it is absolutely needed to correct ill-informed comments.

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Re: Well, fine then! chronarchy June 5 2007, 22:34:50 UTC
Oh, certainly. I just think that Cei did it nicer than I could have with the above post :)

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chronarchy June 5 2007, 19:05:21 UTC
"Scholarship bombing" is basically trotting out as many references as you can to support your argument and destroy another person's. It often results in very long emails that ramble for a long time about many things tangentially related to the topic at hand.

The threshold of what's a "bomb" and what isn't is different for each situation: what's a bomb on ADF-Druidry is just par for the course on ADF-Scholars, for instance. There also may be an implication of "talking down" in a bomb, too.

After sitting on the above reply for a while, and seeing Cei's very simple response, it's obvious mine is one of those bombs. I'm too close to the topic right now to have judged it accurately in the first place, and so I was smart to sit on it.

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tanrinia June 5 2007, 19:06:58 UTC
well, thanks for posting it here, anyway. i don't mind being 'talked down to' if it means i'll 'fucking learn something' :) but that's just me :)

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chronarchy June 5 2007, 19:08:54 UTC
Oh, neither do I. In fact, I spend as much time as possible learning from those who most consider "talking down". Heck, once you can recognize that that's what they're doing, you've probably gotten to the point that you no longer need to learn that particular lesson any longer :)

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