The sign of Jonah

Aug 03, 2010 11:50

I'm not a member of biblical_faith so can't comment there, but a significant subject was raised there today, so I thought I'd post my thoughts here instead ( Read more... )

baptism, prophecy

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pastorlenny August 5 2010, 21:54:44 UTC
But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you. -Romans 8:11

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susannah August 5 2010, 22:06:51 UTC
We go down into the grave, beyond the land of the living.

We rise up again, we rise in the land of the living.

For life in Christ is life indeed.

And Jesus references Jonah because of the clear sign and symbolism of Jonah going down to the depths, beyond the land of the living, and yet rising again, and seeing the land of the living.

Romans 8 is so awesome.

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pastorlenny August 5 2010, 22:12:57 UTC
I think in particular the person of the Holy Spirit is important to bear in mind if and when we choose to discuss the new life in Christ.

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susannah August 5 2010, 23:27:28 UTC
Definitely - though the Holy Spirit always seems so self-effacing. What I mean is, I often feel prompted to worship the other two members ofthe Trinity and to at least in some ways envisage them.

But it's quite hard to envisage the Holy Spirit, except through what the Spirit does. Almost like the shy member of the Trinity.

Yet as the psalmist wrote, even such a long time ago, "You send your Spirit: we are created, and You renew the face of the earth."

New life in Christ is realised when we are born again of the Spirit.

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pastorlenny August 5 2010, 23:29:32 UTC
New life in Christ is realised when we are born again of the Spirit.

Yes, this is apparently the case.

"And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness."

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