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ugh im a bit frustrated at the moment...
i'm sure some people who read this will understand when i say that the majority of people really have no idea the effort that goes into art making.
yeah ok, sure... if you really want i'll paint you a portrait of your fam for payment. yes $100 is very generous (especially at a student budget) but honestly, that's no where near enough. not including materials.. although people often offer to chip in on that... the hours it takes for me to paint 5 figures from teeny tiny pictures is really very extreme. it's also super stressful, living up to expectations of either friends or family.
it's so not going to turn out like some superb photorealism portrait of you and your family, when i can hardly make out their faces in the either pixelated or blurry 4x8. it's not that i think they won't be happy with the outcome, but people just have very unreal expectations. i've had people countless times, ask me to paint them seriously or often in a joking manor (which isn't funny, btw) and like, fuck off, seriously.
this summer one of my mothers friends, asked my mom, to as me... (okaaayyy..) to paint a portrait of her son... which then turned into including her dead mother, and her dead mothers parents. and this was all supposed to be free of charge for her, or a 20x24 canvas. okay... so basically i really didn't mind doing this, because this woman had just gone through a lot ( divorce from a man who basically just used her for a green card, who allegedly verbally abused her and her now 3 or 4 year old son). so as you could see a faced a somewhat existential problem.. do i paint this extremely time consuming painting for this woman because its the nice thing to do and it will probably mean a great deal to her, or do i de-value my art work as a still very "green" artist (as far as being a part of the art world) by painting for free (not to mention something that is in my case pretty mindless) i dont even know if this could qualify as existential (ive always been quite confused by that term) hahah but thats beside the point. basically i just ended up getting frustrated with the stupid painting, and have settled on doing a small acrylic of only her son, and blaming it on lack of time. okay, so am i just a lazy fuck for being this way?? i have no idea. honestly, i guess in some ways yes, and in others no.
it would have been nice for me to have done this for her, considering it may bring some much needed joy into her life.
on the other hand, i have to think of myself... my time. without payment. not to mention how fucking hard it is to paint portraits. for what? i guess it's like charity, i would feel good doing it...
well, hopefully i can get the portrait of her son, which i have decided to do, done before i go back to school.
the one for my friend (that i am being paid to do) is a real pain in the ass. the lighting for all the pictures hes given me is all different, so everyone looks like they are sitting all with a different light source.
i'm just going to hope and pray to god that he likes it.
maybe, his knowledge (like many poeple) of proper payment and time that it takes to create art will be similar to his taste in painting...
hahhaha..
honestly, i think art school has turned me into a bit of a cynical snob. i've learnt a great deal... but like in terms of what should be charged for art, i feel like im just falling into a pit of expectations for what art is really worth.
for example my print teacher told us that $200 for one of our prints (if someone just so offers to buy) is a reasonable starting price. WHAT!?
a print that yes is original... although there may be 15 copies of it... was carved, or etched out for hours and hours... tediously inked up and printed multiple times.
but still, i really think that does sound like a lot!!
but i guess thinking in context... if damien hurst can sell a shark emerged in formaldehyde for 8 million dollars... i should be able to sell a measly woodcut for $200. hahaha...
(granted, the production process of "the physical impossibility of death in someone living" or the formaldehyde shark was like $100, 000.)
STILL... that the the costs of material for the print, as well as the time and labour, $200 is probably not even close to enough. ( i think... sounds reasonable.. that will have to do considering i am in art, not MATH)
SO...
a painting, which i think in a lot of cases (although in this case there is very little conceptual... well really none, in the process) takes WAYYYYYYY more time than a print.
so this painting, should really be worth a lot more than i'm being paid.
but no one really knows this, and i dont think many people will care...
hahaha i think really im sure wasting my time, or procrastinating actually finishing this shit.
ok that was my first rant of the year...
hhahah and a side note.. i reallly need to improve my focus when i write.. im ALL over the place... as seen above.
well, i hope everyone had a good NYE, and im still sticking with the fact that its gonna be a lot better than 2009!
shitty fucking 2009 :@...
okay seriosuly i can't wait to get this shit over with!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i'm sure some people who read this will understand when i say that the majority of people really have no idea the effort that goes into art making.
yeah ok, sure... if you really want i'll paint you a portrait of your fam for payment. yes $100 is very generous (especially at a student budget) but honestly, that's no where near enough. not including materials.. although people often offer to chip in on that... the hours it takes for me to paint 5 figures from teeny tiny pictures is really very extreme. it's also super stressful, living up to expectations of either friends or family.
it's so not going to turn out like some superb photorealism portrait of you and your family, when i can hardly make out their faces in the either pixelated or blurry 4x8. it's not that i think they won't be happy with the outcome, but people just have very unreal expectations. i've had people countless times, ask me to paint them seriously or often in a joking manor (which isn't funny, btw) and like, fuck off, seriously.
this summer one of my mothers friends, asked my mom, to as me... (okaaayyy..) to paint a portrait of her son... which then turned into including her dead mother, and her dead mothers parents. and this was all supposed to be free of charge for her, or a 20x24 canvas. okay... so basically i really didn't mind doing this, because this woman had just gone through a lot ( divorce from a man who basically just used her for a green card, who allegedly verbally abused her and her now 3 or 4 year old son). so as you could see a faced a somewhat existential problem.. do i paint this extremely time consuming painting for this woman because its the nice thing to do and it will probably mean a great deal to her, or do i de-value my art work as a still very "green" artist (as far as being a part of the art world) by painting for free (not to mention something that is in my case pretty mindless) i dont even know if this could qualify as existential (ive always been quite confused by that term) hahah but thats beside the point. basically i just ended up getting frustrated with the stupid painting, and have settled on doing a small acrylic of only her son, and blaming it on lack of time. okay, so am i just a lazy fuck for being this way?? i have no idea. honestly, i guess in some ways yes, and in others no.
it would have been nice for me to have done this for her, considering it may bring some much needed joy into her life.
on the other hand, i have to think of myself... my time. without payment. not to mention how fucking hard it is to paint portraits. for what? i guess it's like charity, i would feel good doing it...
well, hopefully i can get the portrait of her son, which i have decided to do, done before i go back to school.
the one for my friend (that i am being paid to do) is a real pain in the ass. the lighting for all the pictures hes given me is all different, so everyone looks like they are sitting all with a different light source.
i'm just going to hope and pray to god that he likes it.
maybe, his knowledge (like many poeple) of proper payment and time that it takes to create art will be similar to his taste in painting...
hahhaha..
honestly, i think art school has turned me into a bit of a cynical snob. i've learnt a great deal... but like in terms of what should be charged for art, i feel like im just falling into a pit of expectations for what art is really worth.
for example my print teacher told us that $200 for one of our prints (if someone just so offers to buy) is a reasonable starting price. WHAT!?
a print that yes is original... although there may be 15 copies of it... was carved, or etched out for hours and hours... tediously inked up and printed multiple times.
but still, i really think that does sound like a lot!!
but i guess thinking in context... if damien hurst can sell a shark emerged in formaldehyde for 8 million dollars... i should be able to sell a measly woodcut for $200. hahaha...
(granted, the production process of "the physical impossibility of death in someone living" or the formaldehyde shark was like $100, 000.)
STILL... that the the costs of material for the print, as well as the time and labour, $200 is probably not even close to enough. ( i think... sounds reasonable.. that will have to do considering i am in art, not MATH)
SO...
a painting, which i think in a lot of cases (although in this case there is very little conceptual... well really none, in the process) takes WAYYYYYYY more time than a print.
so this painting, should really be worth a lot more than i'm being paid.
but no one really knows this, and i dont think many people will care...
hahaha i think really im sure wasting my time, or procrastinating actually finishing this shit.
ok that was my first rant of the year...
hhahah and a side note.. i reallly need to improve my focus when i write.. im ALL over the place... as seen above.
well, i hope everyone had a good NYE, and im still sticking with the fact that its gonna be a lot better than 2009!
shitty fucking 2009 :@...
okay seriosuly i can't wait to get this shit over with!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!