Projection Prevention offers to help UK drug addicts stop having kids - people freak out

[snowykitten]

I have always supported Project Prevention, a charity that pays drug addicts to get long-term birth control or sterilization in order to prevent more kids from being born as crack babies. They've been active in the USA for a while but recently they expanded into the UK as this news story discusses:
Charity offers UK drug addicts £200 to be

Comments

[dog]

woah wat the fuck, people. it is giving them the option of LONG TERM BIRTH CONTROL, which does not mean they ALL MUST get sterilized! jesus.

Project Prevention, started in 1997, says it has paid money out to 3,242 addicts, or clients as it prefers to call them. Most of them were women and 1,226 were permanently sterilised. Thirty-five men have had vasectomies.

on my planet, 1,226 + 35 does not equal 3,242. options are always good shit. over half her clients are white. OF COURSE they're gonna be poor, they're getting paid instead of payING for BC. honestly? the choice is THERE. I LIKE IT.

[barbayat]

Gee, but we can not have people making decisions for themselves - and maybe life with the consequences of making that decision. *rollyseyes*

As I see it, chances that someone who is so keen on grabbin 200 pounds that despite knowing it is permanent get sterilised ever turns out to be responsible parent material are significantly lower than creating a baby that will be born with problems and parents not suited to take care of them.

Sometimes if you mess up, you need to life up to it.

[object_sleep]

This is a really fucked up comment.

My partner and I choose to be childfree, as a mutual decision. But when I met him, he was a recovering herion addict.

Gee, but we can not have people making decisions for themselves - and maybe life with the consequences of making that decision. *rollyseyes*

And you're an asshole for thinking that people with addiction problems (drug, alcohol or otherwise) are prone to making good decisions, or are going to make the best decision for themselves long term when it comes to fertility.

[barbayat]

So you feel it is better they chose pregnancy or knocking up others and create unwanted, neglected kids that have a much greater risk for health issues. And I am the asshole, really?

[object_sleep]

Yeah, you are the asshole.

Because it is NEVER anyone else's place to judge another woman's choice when it comes to what she does about her pregnancy, or her childbirth.

And that's what it means to be pro-choice. Re-fucking-gardless.

[barbayat]

Gee, whatever you are smoking - can you tell me what it is, so I can make sure I can avoid it?

[object_sleep]

I smoke this wonderful herb called reality. Its really rare, really hard to find, but medically available as a treatment for naivette. I can get you my doctor's name, if you'd like.

[barbayat]

Well, while I still think you are totally wrong and need a reality check.

I give you at least points for a the first semi-funny reply.

[object_sleep]

Where am I wrong?

[barbayat]

Wrong in thinking that is okay to rather let a child suffer than for some adult to maybe regret a decision they made.

Also by thinking it is okay for you to decide what decisions someone is allowed to make and what not.

[object_sleep]

PS- you can't get it off of the internet.

[object_sleep]

No, because that's using coercion on someone who is vulnerable. On someone who may end up regretting that decision, when he or she ends up becoming clean, down the line. And supporting that, is fucking ablest, and treating addicted people like second class citizens.

Like I said below, fuck off, you and your fucking prejudices.

[lilenth]

But if you do not believe they're mentally well enough to CHOOSE to be sterilised and are being cohereced into the scheme? How can you say that they're capable of choosing to have a child? That's the thing about choice, either they're equiped to make their own choices or they aren't, you cannot have it both ways.

[sacrilicious]

Agreed with you 100000%. I'm supposed to feel bad for someone who CHOSE to take drugs rather then the physically fucked up, unwanted kids they might create? No.

[laughingnahga]

Not to mention that the site even states that they will not sterilize anyone how hasn't already had children.