Sherlock Holmes and SPN meta (sorry about that)

Feb 07, 2010 20:56

I've been with my parents and my brother to see "Sherlock Holmes" ( and it was delightful )

pointless rambling, meta

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galathea_snb February 7 2010, 20:13:00 UTC
I never believe the angels when they tell the brothers that they have no choice and that everything is predestined. We know that the angels are masterful manipulators. I think it is pretty obvious that Lucifer, Michael or Gabriel tell Sam and Dean they have no choice, because in their choice, that's exactly where Sam and Dean's greatest power lies. If Sam and Dean really had no choice, the angels wouldn't bother, because 'destiny' would play out no matter what the brothers think/do. No, the fact that they all try so desperately to convince the brothers is exactly the reason why I think that they lie. :)

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chiiyo86 February 7 2010, 20:24:30 UTC
If Sam and Dean really had no choice, the angels wouldn't bother, because 'destiny' would play out no matter what the brothers think/do.

Yes, definitely. But I also think (and it's just my own pet theory) that they believe or at least want to believe it's fate - and here I speak more about the fact that it had to be them than about the fact that they have to say yes, though of course these two facts are related. The idea of fate appeal to the angels' nature, which is why Castiel was so lost and confused and is just getting on board with "Team Free Will."

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galathea_snb February 7 2010, 20:33:27 UTC
Oh, absolutely. I think that angels do believe in fate and prophecies and the immutability of the devine word and that they have a hard time comperehending the concept of choice/free will. Not because they don't have it - because we have seen that angels do have choices and free will - but because they are not used to using it. Castiel is the best example for that.

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chiiyo86 February 7 2010, 20:54:49 UTC
Not because they don't have it - because we have seen that angels do have choices and free will - but because they are not used to using it.

Yes and now that God is gone for whatever reason, they all have to deal with it, in various ways, because no one is there to tell them what to do. It was interesting to see how much Lucifer and Michael's speeches to their vessels were similar. I'm very curious about what a confrontation between them would look like.

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galathea_snb February 7 2010, 21:28:37 UTC
Heh, I, too, thought that Lucifer and Michael were remarkably similar. There was arrogance and coldness beneath Michael's soft-spoken manner and he tried to appeal to Dean's sense of family and duty, but clearly with manipulative intent. It was an interesting character and Matt Cohen did a marvellous job with him.

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chiiyo86 February 7 2010, 21:38:14 UTC
Michael was such a nice surprise! I wasn't expecting at all to see him in that episode (and God knows I'm spoiled...)

Love your icon!

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galathea_snb February 7 2010, 21:42:16 UTC
I had no clue that Michael would show up either. It's amazing they manged to keep that spoiler under wraps. *g*

Thank you! I ♥ young Mary so much. :)

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chiiyo86 February 7 2010, 21:49:07 UTC
I ♥ young Mary so much. :)

Me too! <3

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