Bart Simpson and Kol Isha

Oct 15, 2007 16:15


http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art42072.asp

Seriously, I don't watch the show enough to know he's played by a woman. Interesting questions here!

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androgenie October 15 2007, 20:43:09 UTC
Very interesting. I knew he was played by a woman....didn't know that a frum man could not hear a woman sing (I love all the rules imposed on women because men supposedly have no self-control). Very interesting.

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chaucergrrl October 16 2007, 00:45:40 UTC
LOL, yeah, that's why I think Orthodoxy objectifies women so much more than the society they claim to be better than. Like a guy is going to get aroused because I'm wearing jeans instead of skirt or even--gasp--my running shorts.

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androgenie October 16 2007, 02:06:09 UTC
It's the same with very orthodox muslim folks. I was at Target the other day (and this particular Target store employs a lot of Muslim women), and saw a woman with even her face covered.....Everything but her hands and eyes were covered.

Modesty is one thing....I actually appreciate modesty. And I don't mind headcoverings of any sort (I'm digging headscarves actually....my hair stays put without all sorts of contraptions). Modesty for all people isn't a bad thing....just don't force it on people!!!!!

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chaucergrrl October 17 2007, 18:41:01 UTC
I don't understand how those woman managed to MOVE.

I agree. Modesty can be a good thing, but it should always be a voluntary thing, and as I pointed out in a discussion on modest_style, the standards for it vary from one group to the next. Whose are "right?"

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androgenie October 17 2007, 18:50:11 UTC
Exactly. For me as a triathlete, modesty isn't practical for my races :-) Although I just realized that I do have my head covered for all three sports (swim cap, bike helmet, running visor)

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chaucergrrl October 17 2007, 19:25:49 UTC
If I really wanted to argue modesty, I'd say that running in a long skirt would attract WAY more attention than running in seasonally appropriate running clothes--and I'd prefer not to die of heatstroke! I don't wear anything midriff-revealing though and don't buy super-short shorts.

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