enjoyed the background on the director and all your observations. I don't know, he seemed to be lifting the girl up and her sacrifice seemed to redeem the cad/bounder's life IMO.
That could very well be a more accurate interpretation of the film. I'm more judgemental about women who give all for Love, especially when the one whom they love is not Worth a Moment of their time or consideration. See how Judgemental I am?
But in a few of his other films that I have seen, Mr. Ophuls seems to have a different view of All for Love, or so I take it.
I think that you just have a crush on Stefan because he is so cute. Yeah, that is how I am going to see it. ;-)
I'll have to check out his other films.
Oh yes, I'll put La Ronde on our list for Movie Night.
We don't know how the duel ended up. Maybe the cad/bounder died. So Lisa was his last love.
True. I don't think that he reformed himself if he survived the duel. Or did he? Would that even be possible? It all seemed so futile to me.. And then there is the first World War with its dreadful casualties coming up in the near future and it will greatly change and affect that part of Europe and its people. And that War to End All Wars was futile too. Maybe, I am reading too much into it.
Frankly my dear... brijeanaDecember 8 2010, 03:26:34 UTC
True. I don't think that he reformed himself if he survived the duel. Or did he? Would that even be possible? It all seemed so futile to me.. And then there is the first World War with its dreadful casualties coming up in the near future and it will greatly change and affect that part of Europe and its people. And that War to End All Wars was futile too. Maybe, I am reading too much into it.
This makes me think of Gone with the Wind. As much as that movie inspired sequels and made people wonder about Scarlet's tomorrows, the film was really about a bygone era and a lost chance. Hmm... Coulda Woulda Shoulda...
It's just that ghost image of Lisa before the end of the film. Why do that. Why make her out to be some angel? Unless... maybe the movie was supposed to be infuriating!
When I get to this place in contemplating art, I always think of Flannery O' Connor and her bag of chickens.
GRR! I can't find the exact quote. But she talks about how you can't tie up a story in a neat bow. Here it is! It is the form it has, not some paraphrase or explanation of itself. Thinking of the imagery... I don't know that it really is a tale of redemption. But there is a beauty in useless, fruitless dreams I guess. LOL!
And yeah, I did have a crush and the cad and bounder. I'm so shallow! But he played the piano! *hangs head in shame*
I found the quote!
"People talk about the theme of a story as if the theme were like the string that a sack of chicken feed is tied with. They think that if you can pick out the theme, the way you pick out the right thread in the chicken-feed sack, you can rip the story open and feed the chickens. But this is not the way meaning works in fiction. [...] The meaning of a story has to be embodied in it, has to be made concrete in it. A story is a way to say something that can't be said any other way, and it takes every word in the story to say what the meaning is. You tell a story because a statement would be inadequate. When somebody asks what a story is about, the only proper thing is to tell him to read the story. The meaning of fiction is not abstract meaning but experienced meaning adn the purpose of making statements about the meaning of a story is only ot help you to experience that meaning more fully."
Love this! And considering how angry I was for most of the film... I think your interpretation has as much merit as mine.
That could very well be a more accurate interpretation of the film. I'm more judgemental about women who give all for Love, especially when the one whom they love is not Worth a Moment of their time or consideration. See how Judgemental I am?
But in a few of his other films that I have seen, Mr. Ophuls seems to have a different view of All for Love, or so I take it.
I think that you just have a crush on Stefan because he is so cute. Yeah, that is how I am going to see it. ;-)
I'll have to check out his other films.
Oh yes, I'll put La Ronde on our list for Movie Night.
We don't know how the duel ended up. Maybe the cad/bounder died. So Lisa was his last love.
True. I don't think that he reformed himself if he survived the duel. Or did he? Would that even be possible? It all seemed so futile to me.. And then there is the first World War with its dreadful casualties coming up in the near future and it will greatly change and affect that part of Europe and its people. And that War to End All Wars was futile too. Maybe, I am reading too much into it.
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This makes me think of Gone with the Wind. As much as that movie inspired sequels and made people wonder about Scarlet's tomorrows, the film was really about a bygone era and a lost chance. Hmm... Coulda Woulda Shoulda...
It's just that ghost image of Lisa before the end of the film. Why do that. Why make her out to be some angel? Unless... maybe the movie was supposed to be infuriating!
When I get to this place in contemplating art, I always think of Flannery O' Connor and her bag of chickens.
GRR! I can't find the exact quote. But she talks about how you can't tie up a story in a neat bow. Here it is! It is the form it has, not some paraphrase or explanation of itself. Thinking of the imagery... I don't know that it really is a tale of redemption. But there is a beauty in useless, fruitless dreams I guess. LOL!
And yeah, I did have a crush and the cad and bounder. I'm so shallow! But he played the piano! *hangs head in shame*
I found the quote!
"People talk about the theme of a story as if the theme were like the string that a sack of chicken feed is tied with. They think that if you can pick out the theme, the way you pick out the right thread in the chicken-feed sack, you can rip the story open and feed the chickens. But this is not the way meaning works in fiction. [...] The meaning of a story has to be embodied in it, has to be made concrete in it. A story is a way to say something that can't be said any other way, and it takes every word in the story to say what the meaning is. You tell a story because a statement would be inadequate. When somebody asks what a story is about, the only proper thing is to tell him to read the story. The meaning of fiction is not abstract meaning but experienced meaning adn the purpose of making statements about the meaning of a story is only ot help you to experience that meaning more fully."
Love this! And considering how angry I was for most of the film... I think your interpretation has as much merit as mine.
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