I was wondering if Arlo would start talking about grandchildren, and can you imagine Arlo with a grandchild? I can, but it certainly wouldn't be a child of mine.
He’d either tell them to ride their bikes into walls or just pull their teeth out himself to get the Tooth Fairy money.
And it is wrong, how many fathers and sons would pull guns on each other?
And Raylan did what he said in the pilot: when he pulls he has to use it. That’s what it’s for. Even if it’s his dad. That snake.
The Miami Drug Cartel takes care of Bo for Boyd (or maybe that was Boyd's Heavenly Father taking care of Bo for Boyd, I wonder if Boyd will ponder this later in his life, if his life lasts much longer)
I love that. It very well have been a Heavenlyintervention from keeping Boyd from doing something he would regret.
Winona takes off her wedding ring to cheat on her husband with Raylan. Is it cheating if Winona doesn't wear her ring and Gary is living at the Gym?
She is love drunk on Raylan. That’s her whiskey. I’m guessing she either told him about their tryst or she just asked him to leave because she’s so focused on Raylan right now.
Ava tells Raylan that she will listen to him next time and leave Harlan County. Ava takes off running in the woods from the Miami Drug Cartel. I hope that she keeps going and breaks free.
She didn’t even say goodbye. That was surprising to me. She just walked away.
Mo Gaffney appears as the new Harlan County Sheriff Davis. Yay!!! I hope that she is back for Season Two.
I love Mo.
I enjoyed the writing, plotting, characters, and acting on this show. This is an example of Grade A Prime Good Trash TV. I highly recommend this show to all TV viewers who like Meat in their TV diet.
It’s a great show. I’ve been very happy with it. Now the question is if it could sustain itself in S2? If there's a baby, a look-alike cousin of Raylan or a shark, I'll be worried.
He’d either tell them to ride their bikes into walls or just pull their teeth out himself to get the Tooth Fairy money.
Arlo would, he really would. And he would find a way to extort money out of the Tooth Fairy too. Hey, was the rapist guy the same guy who played the Tooth Fairy on SPN? I thought that he looked familiar. Good Eye!
And Raylan did what he said in the pilot: when he pulls he has to use it. That’s what it’s for. Even if it’s his dad. That snake.
All the Bad Dads on this show.
I don't know which Boyd I like the best. The one who is filled with Hate. Or the one who is Filled with Love who uses Extreme Prejudice to EnForce God's Will. Now there's Michael for you.
She just walked away.
I wonder if she'll be back next season. I think that her story line is finished. I liked the actress and Ava but I don't see how she would fit into the next season. With all the Crowders gone, she doesn't need Raylan to protect her (I think that she did a good job of that on her own). And Ava and Raylan have broken up. I don't know how much of any of these characters might be used for the next season outside of Raylan's family and the Us Marshals. I don't even know if Boyd will be back and if he is how would he fit in?
I do want Miss Gaffney back. I loved her on Absolutely Fabulous.
Yeah, now all we have to worry about is Sophomore Slump. Watch out for a Jaws poster on Art's Office Wall!
I Use the Icon of Boys With Daddy Issues too...dawnybeeJune 11 2010, 23:16:23 UTC
See what Bo and Arlo did? They made poor Tim Riggins off himself.
All the Bad Dads on this show.
It's a bit refreshing and a lot disturbing. I couldn't believe Arlo would use Raylan that way. He's all about self-preservation and there's no room for anything else. And the same with Bo--at least having someone beating up your son isn't the same as setting him up in a trap where you know there's a distinct possibility he'd be killed.
I don't know which Boyd I like the best. The one who is filled with Hate. Or the one who is Filled with Love who uses Extreme Prejudice to EnForce God's Will. Now there's Michael for you.
I admit I love the first one. Or if it had turned out that he was using this newfound redemption as a further rouse, I would've loved that, now it seems he really did find religion. D'oh!
With all the Crowders gone, she doesn't need Raylan to protect her (I think that she did a good job of that on her own)
She didn't need him . And even in scenarios where I assumed he'd run to her side like finding out she didn't leave town, he didn't. It's nice to see a show that doesn't follow the usual plot devices. A lot of strong women in this show--flawed, but strong.
don't know how much of any of these characters might be used for the next season outside of Raylan's family and the Us Marshals. I don't even know if Boyd will be back and if he is how would he fit in?
Boyd is back. Walton was just made a regular. I went to a Q&A with the producer/writer Graham Yost, Elmore Leonard, Timothy and Walton and at least Yost is honest: he has no idea what they're going to do in S2 and he played it by ear in S1. So that was not helpful in the least, but that's all he offered about S2.
I think Boyd will be the counter-point to Raylan-he's what Raylan would have become if he had stayed in Kentucky. Yost said that in Leonard stories Raylan's dad had died of black lung but Yost was trying to find out why Raylan becomes a Marshal. Usually officers come from a long line of cops or sometimes they come from family with criminals and they want to go the other way, so he figured that Raylan would be one who becomes a marshall because he wants to be nothing like his father.
I do want Miss Gaffney back. I loved her on Absolutely Fabulous.
ooh, I loved her in AbFab. The actor who played her husband was one of my favorite characters in "The Young Ones" so it was like a comedy great tag team
Re: I Use the Icon of Boys With Daddy Issues too...Me toochatchienJune 12 2010, 11:54:33 UTC
I couldn't believe Arlo would use Raylan that way. He's all about self-preservation and there's no room for anything else.
I just watched the fifth episode where Arlo is introduced breaking and entering and wielding a baseball bat like Thor's Hammer. And the episode is called The Lord of War and Thunder. It is beautifully done. Arlo appears to be a Pagan God who is as fickle and as mighty and indifferent to conventional human values as any Trickster. It's almost a child's eye view of Arlo, as the child Raylan must have been.
And as frightening as Arlo must have been to Raylan as a child, there are the jail house and hospital scenes where Arlo is charming everyone with his stories and jokes. I loved Raylan's reaction when he approaches his father in the jail and in the hospital. Raylan reels and then steadies himself and his eyes go wide with fright. The old man can still frighten the man, Raylan, and make his heart race with the trepidation of facing him.
This relationship between Raylan and Arlo is going to be a fascinating ride on this show. As bad as Arlo is, he left his mark---of mental illness and heart disease on Raylan. And how perfect is it to connect Arlo with heart disease? Arlo didn't stay in the mines to get black lung disease; but he developed black heart disease. Keep this up show.
It's nice to see a show that doesn't follow the usual plot devices. A lot of strong women in this show--flawed, but strong.
It is so refreshing when a show respects its women characters as people and not as plot devices to make the hero heroic or sexy. I know Elmore Leonard, from the few of his many books that I have read, writes strong and interesting and flawed women characters who do what they do because of who they are.
And I was looking at the list of writers on this show over at IMBD. They are all men that I can tell. These are men writing such good women characters. Hmmm, some feminist ideals from the women who raised them must have taken with these writer boys. ;-)
I went to a Q&A with the producer/writer Graham Yost, Elmore Leonard, Timothy and Walton and at least Yost is honest: he has no idea what they're going to do in S2 and he played it by ear in S1
You go to all the Best Places and Meet All the Cool Kids. You would have partied at Studio 54 every night in the 1970s (it was the seventies, wasn't it? I'm thinking of The Last Days of Disco).
I want to see how they handle Boyd. He was a good counter-point to Raylan in Season One and I really liked Boyd's ambiguity, it mirrored Arlo's. It would be such a contrast to someone like Art in Raylan's life. Art is always dependable and he is what he is, no disguises. He is the Head Marshal in town. Whereas Boyd could be another version of Arlo or not. Boyd is intelligent and uses his intelligence to rise above himself and think outside his comforts. Arlo was intelligent enough to get himself out of the mines, but couldn't rise above a life of meaness and petty crimes.
Oh, this could be so good. I'm glad that Boyd is back. He has such potential to reflect well on Raylan.
I'm going to read those two stories about Raylan Givens that Mr. Leonard wrote. I've got my request in at the library.
I loved that ABFAB paired the tall Miss Gaffney with the short con man fromThe Young Ones. Another fan of The Young Ones!!!!!!!! I loved Ric Mayal and his pretentious posturings about the distant and oppressed masses. He was every Left Cliché. Whatever happened to him and that Hippie Guy? That show was The Muppets run amok and gone chaotic on an acid trip.
Thank you for that link on Mr. Goggins. I never watched The Shield, so until this show, I was unfamiliar with him. He is a prize winning Hog Caller! Haha! And Boyd's little dance in the church when he was testifying as to Jesus's Righteous Love! Mr. Goggins was so right with that! He knows the culture and he has got that lean and wiry look that so many of those Good ole Boys have.
He’d either tell them to ride their bikes into walls or just pull their teeth out himself to get the Tooth Fairy money.
And it is wrong, how many fathers and sons would pull guns on each other?
And Raylan did what he said in the pilot: when he pulls he has to use it. That’s what it’s for. Even if it’s his dad. That snake.
The Miami Drug Cartel takes care of Bo for Boyd (or maybe that was Boyd's Heavenly Father taking care of Bo for Boyd, I wonder if Boyd will ponder this later in his life, if his life lasts much longer)
I love that. It very well have been a Heavenlyintervention from keeping Boyd from doing something he would regret.
Winona takes off her wedding ring to cheat on her husband with Raylan. Is it cheating if Winona doesn't wear her ring and Gary is living at the Gym?
She is love drunk on Raylan. That’s her whiskey. I’m guessing she either told him about their tryst or she just asked him to leave because she’s so focused on Raylan right now.
Ava tells Raylan that she will listen to him next time and leave Harlan County. Ava takes off running in the woods from the Miami Drug Cartel. I hope that she keeps going and breaks free.
She didn’t even say goodbye. That was surprising to me. She just walked away.
Mo Gaffney appears as the new Harlan County Sheriff Davis. Yay!!! I hope that she is back for Season Two.
I love Mo.
I enjoyed the writing, plotting, characters, and acting on this show. This is an example of Grade A Prime Good Trash TV. I highly recommend this show to all TV viewers who like Meat in their TV diet.
It’s a great show. I’ve been very happy with it. Now the question is if it could sustain itself in S2? If there's a baby, a look-alike cousin of Raylan or a shark, I'll be worried.
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Arlo would, he really would. And he would find a way to extort money out of the Tooth Fairy too. Hey, was the rapist guy the same guy who played the Tooth Fairy on SPN? I thought that he looked familiar. Good Eye!
And Raylan did what he said in the pilot: when he pulls he has to use it. That’s what it’s for. Even if it’s his dad. That snake.
All the Bad Dads on this show.
I don't know which Boyd I like the best. The one who is filled with Hate. Or the one who is Filled with Love who uses Extreme Prejudice to EnForce God's Will. Now there's Michael for you.
She just walked away.
I wonder if she'll be back next season. I think that her story line is finished. I liked the actress and Ava but I don't see how she would fit into the next season. With all the Crowders gone, she doesn't need Raylan to protect her (I think that she did a good job of that on her own). And Ava and Raylan have broken up. I don't know how much of any of these characters might be used for the next season outside of Raylan's family and the Us Marshals. I don't even know if Boyd will be back and if he is how would he fit in?
I do want Miss Gaffney back. I loved her on Absolutely Fabulous.
Yeah, now all we have to worry about is Sophomore Slump. Watch out for a Jaws poster on Art's Office Wall!
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All the Bad Dads on this show.
It's a bit refreshing and a lot disturbing. I couldn't believe Arlo would use Raylan that way. He's all about self-preservation and there's no room for anything else. And the same with Bo--at least having someone beating up your son isn't the same as setting him up in a trap where you know there's a distinct possibility he'd be killed.
I don't know which Boyd I like the best. The one who is filled with Hate. Or the one who is Filled with Love who uses Extreme Prejudice to EnForce God's Will. Now there's Michael for you.
I admit I love the first one. Or if it had turned out that he was using this newfound redemption as a further rouse, I would've loved that, now it seems he really did find religion. D'oh!
With all the Crowders gone, she doesn't need Raylan to protect her (I think that she did a good job of that on her own)
She didn't need him . And even in scenarios where I assumed he'd run to her side like finding out she didn't leave town, he didn't. It's nice to see a show that doesn't follow the usual plot devices. A lot of strong women in this show--flawed, but strong.
don't know how much of any of these characters might be used for the next season outside of Raylan's family and the Us Marshals. I don't even know if Boyd will be back and if he is how would he fit in?
Boyd is back. Walton was just made a regular. I went to a Q&A with the producer/writer Graham Yost, Elmore Leonard, Timothy and Walton and at least Yost is honest: he has no idea what they're going to do in S2 and he played it by ear in S1. So that was not helpful in the least, but that's all he offered about S2.
I think Boyd will be the counter-point to Raylan-he's what Raylan would have become if he had stayed in Kentucky. Yost said that in Leonard stories Raylan's dad had died of black lung but Yost was trying to find out why Raylan becomes a Marshal. Usually officers come from a long line of cops or sometimes they come from family with criminals and they want to go the other way, so he figured that Raylan would be one who becomes a marshall because he wants to be nothing like his father.
I do want Miss Gaffney back. I loved her on Absolutely Fabulous.
ooh, I loved her in AbFab. The actor who played her husband was one of my favorite characters in "The Young Ones" so it was like a comedy great tag team
If you haven't already seen it, here's a Walton Goggins
http://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?storyId=126889536
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I just watched the fifth episode where Arlo is introduced breaking and entering and wielding a baseball bat like Thor's Hammer. And the episode is called The Lord of War and Thunder. It is beautifully done. Arlo appears to be a Pagan God who is as fickle and as mighty and indifferent to conventional human values as any Trickster. It's almost a child's eye view of Arlo, as the child Raylan must have been.
And as frightening as Arlo must have been to Raylan as a child, there are the jail house and hospital scenes where Arlo is charming everyone with his stories and jokes. I loved Raylan's reaction when he approaches his father in the jail and in the hospital. Raylan reels and then steadies himself and his eyes go wide with fright. The old man can still frighten the man, Raylan, and make his heart race with the trepidation of facing him.
This relationship between Raylan and Arlo is going to be a fascinating ride on this show. As bad as Arlo is, he left his mark---of mental illness and heart disease on Raylan. And how perfect is it to connect Arlo with heart disease? Arlo didn't stay in the mines to get black lung disease; but he developed black heart disease. Keep this up show.
It's nice to see a show that doesn't follow the usual plot devices. A lot of strong women in this show--flawed, but strong.
It is so refreshing when a show respects its women characters as people and not as plot devices to make the hero heroic or sexy. I know Elmore Leonard, from the few of his many books that I have read, writes strong and interesting and flawed women characters who do what they do because of who they are.
And I was looking at the list of writers on this show over at IMBD. They are all men that I can tell. These are men writing such good women characters. Hmmm, some feminist ideals from the women who raised them must have taken with these writer boys. ;-)
I went to a Q&A with the producer/writer Graham Yost, Elmore Leonard, Timothy and Walton and at least Yost is honest: he has no idea what they're going to do in S2 and he played it by ear in S1
You go to all the Best Places and Meet All the Cool Kids. You would have partied at Studio 54 every night in the 1970s (it was the seventies, wasn't it? I'm thinking of The Last Days of Disco).
I want to see how they handle Boyd. He was a good counter-point to Raylan in Season One and I really liked Boyd's ambiguity, it mirrored Arlo's. It would be such a contrast to someone like Art in Raylan's life. Art is always dependable and he is what he is, no disguises. He is the Head Marshal in town. Whereas Boyd could be another version of Arlo or not. Boyd is intelligent and uses his intelligence to rise above himself and think outside his comforts. Arlo was intelligent enough to get himself out of the mines, but couldn't rise above a life of meaness and petty crimes.
Oh, this could be so good. I'm glad that Boyd is back. He has such potential to reflect well on Raylan.
I'm going to read those two stories about Raylan Givens that Mr. Leonard wrote. I've got my request in at the library.
I loved that ABFAB paired the tall Miss Gaffney with the short con man fromThe Young Ones. Another fan of The Young Ones!!!!!!!! I loved Ric Mayal and his pretentious posturings about the distant and oppressed masses. He was every Left Cliché. Whatever happened to him and that Hippie Guy? That show was The Muppets run amok and gone chaotic on an acid trip.
Thank you for that link on Mr. Goggins. I never watched The Shield, so until this show, I was unfamiliar with him. He is a prize winning Hog Caller! Haha! And Boyd's little dance in the church when he was testifying as to Jesus's Righteous Love! Mr. Goggins was so right with that! He knows the culture and he has got that lean and wiry look that so many of those Good ole Boys have.
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