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Feb 16, 2009 16:45

Okay.

This is something that has bugged me for-fucking-ever, and that most authors, I think, don't actually, consciously think about. Hell, I don't like to think about it, if only because anthropology as a discipline has gone so ass-over-teakettle about identifying potential ~influences on one's work that you practically can't get to the essay ( Read more... )

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jencendiary February 23 2009, 15:32:57 UTC
Oh, hi. I'm a friend-of-friend and I had to come in and basically spray OMGWTFGABRIEL on your journal.

Or, if you like titles, In Defense of Gabe Saporta:

Because Gabe leaks his issues out of every pore. Lyrics, interviews, all of it. His father was a doctor, an actual physician in Uruguay. And I'm not familiar with the standard of living there, but I assume it's higher for a physician in Uruguay than for an unskilled laborer in New Jersey. So, Gabe comes from there to the US with his family and goes from being one class to a dramatically different one AND learning a new language AND being an elementary/middle schooler all at the same time. This is big scary stuff ( ... )

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channonyarrow February 23 2009, 18:57:27 UTC
See, that fits so completely with where I was coming from about this! I mean, I don't know Gabe very well in even a fannish context because I had to give up something in order to have time to eat, so interviews etc are gone. But sorting through the fannish interpretation and the actuality, this would fit well with what I think is true of Gabe, and I think you've said it very nicely - he's not gonna go hungry again. I mean, I know I didn't make that point in this post, but it fits in with the whole thing about Being From Jersey, because that is one WEIRD sGalong when you look at the rest of Cobra's catalogue, and I'm not even talking about the way in which it's recorded.

You know what? I bet he is a big mess (I mean, okay, that's kind of for stylistic purposes, because it's kind of obvious that he IS a big mess) and I bet he thinks he's a sellout, but I unironically love and admire him as much as it's humanly possible to love and admire someone who I've never even talked to. He, and his band, are fantastic performers, and they all ( ... )

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jencendiary February 23 2009, 19:04:27 UTC
Also, Being From Jersey is the world's most obvious Nirvana pastiche. Musically speaking, that is. And if that doesn't just say a frillion things about his state of mind post-Midtown/pre-Cobra, in the wake of Warped '05 and the Emo Takeover of Pop Culture, I don't know what does.

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channonyarrow February 23 2009, 22:53:29 UTC
I'm not clear what you mean by Nirvana pastiche (pastiche is a word that I actually am never able to retain the definition of, for some reason). Do you mean in terms of the way that Rape Me and Smells Like Teen Spirit are the same song, just the one's slowed down and reworked to, lyrically, make a statement and musically be referential to the thing it is, uh, stating, or do you mean something else? I find Being From Jersey a very interesting song.

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jencendiary February 23 2009, 23:01:13 UTC
Listen to Being From New Jersey and then take a listen to Nirvana's cover of The Man Who Stole The World. Referential is putting it mildly.

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channonyarrow February 23 2009, 23:26:07 UTC
I'll do it. That's not a Nirvana song I'm very familiar with (I think admitting that means I have to leave Seattle, where I grew up forever) so I can't call it to mind instantly. I'll check it out.

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jencendiary February 23 2009, 23:03:19 UTC
Man Who Sold The World, that is.

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