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If it was proven to you, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that Jesus is in fact God, would you worship Him?

Comments

[ashrayne]

Why does Jesus being proven to be God need to effect worship?

[ex_restless]

It doesn't seem that the OP said that it does. He asked if it would.

[ashrayne]

Forgive me; I should have clarified. I did not mean to imply that the OP said it would.

I'm merely asking why such a revelation would effect worship in the first place.

[ex_restless]

Well, what do you think. Would the understanding of Jesus as God be cause to worship Him? How would such an understanding of Jesus' divinity affect your relationship to God, whether spiritual, intellectual, or otherwise?

[ashrayne]

I was proposing a philosophical question. However, if I must address this personally, the understanding of Jesus as God wouldn't affect my relationship to "God" in the least. I am not entirely sure why it would, hence the question.

[ex_restless]

I appreciate the philosophical nature of the question, which is why I am surprised that you are dismissing the impact of such a revelation. It most certainly would affect the nature of your relationship to God. First, let me ask, do you believe in God?

[ashrayne]

Perhaps. Define "God."

[ex_restless]

Well, what definition of god might you perhaps believe in?

[ashrayne]

*laughs a little* Well now. That entirely depends on how we're defining "belief."

[ex_restless]

Haha, okay. Well what I'm getting at is this. You may possibly believe in some kind of god depending on how god and belief are now defined. The proposition in the OP is that suddenly somehow you've become convinced that Jesus is God, and I've argued that this would absolutely change your relationship with God, whether spiritually, intellectually or otherwise. I think it should be easy to see how. As it is now, your relationship with God is simply that you acknowledge the possibility of one's existence, with all sorts of conditions upon that acknowledgment. Now you would go to a relationship of clear belief, and a relationship of belief in a very particular kind of God, a personal God, a God who has taken human form, a God who has experienced death, a God desires our salvation, a God who opens eternal life to us

[ashrayne]

Oh? I thought the proposition in the OP is that it was proven to me that Jesus is "God," not that I was convinced. Proof does not necessarily mean that I agree. For example, science may "prove" to me that the earth is round, and I can still be completely convinced that it is flat. This is an entirely arbitrary matter.

If it were proven to me that Jesus were in fact "God" (notwithstanding the various definitional conditions that would have to be met for this even to be plausible) that would not necessarily change my supposed "relationship" to one of clear belief. It could, perhaps, change my intellectual assent that there may possibly be "something that could fit into the definition of God" to "there is now something that fits the definition of God."

Assent or the fulfillment of a finite definition does not have to cause worship. This realization could change my "relationship" with God, but it just as easily might not

[ex_restless]

The OP didn't merely say proven, but also that any shadow of doubt had been removed. The obvious meaning of the hypothetical is that there is no longer any doubt whatever that Jesus is God.

[ashrayne]

True, but evidence still does not require belief.

[ex_restless]

So you can disbelieve that which you have no doubt is true?

[ashrayne]

Absolutely. It happens everyday.

[ex_restless]

Could you provide me with an example?