Wondering of other young adults feel the way I do...

May 04, 2011 21:12

There was a time when I was very active in my church, and my youth group meetings. I was proud of my religion, proud of the principles, morals, and philosophies I was raised to respect and understand. I was glad to be among others who loved and cherished their neighbors, and respected the opinions and lifestyles of others who differ from them.

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tcpip May 5 2011, 12:03:15 UTC
I think the difficulty comes when the nature of generaliations in most languages.

When somebody says "[Insert religious group] are are cruel and closed-minded and cannot accept people who don't believe what they believe!" they are probably referring to some, or even many Christians.

And of course some or even many are not like that.

So you can have what seems to be a contradictory statement because both can be true!

So I think the easiest thing to do is to correct people who make generalisations without a quantifier. Because with the quantifier the accusation may actually be true.

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lookofevil May 5 2011, 22:10:26 UTC
I think that is still unfair. And it's not my job to correct other people's opinions; it just saddens me to see the UU faith abused like that. How can I tell people my religion is accepting and tolerant of other religions and beliefs when the people I share that religion with are intolerant of others ( ... )

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tcpip May 6 2011, 00:52:17 UTC
I think that is still unfair. And it's not my job to correct other people's opinions...

Well, I suppose that depends on whether you consider facts to be objective or whether morals are universal. Personally I do.

(I think we'd agree however that taste is subjective.)

since my whole point is that UU's are hiding behind the open-mindedness of their religion and attacking from behind it. UU's are saying, "I am kind and tolerant of all faiths... unlike THAT religion."

My understanding is more a tolerance of metaphysical propositions (existence of God, heaven and hell etc). I am not particularly tolerant of racism, homophobia etc. and especially when someone tries to tie it with religious justifications.

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lookofevil May 6 2011, 01:00:03 UTC
I am not particularly tolerant of racism, homophobia etc. and especially when someone tries to tie it with religious justifications.

And if the people I am objecting to were using those as their arguments, I would not be so offended. However, simply attacking another religion because you think you are categorically better or more sophisticated is, to me, NOT acceptable and NOT in keeping with the moral guidelines of UUism.

I don't appreciate the elitist attitudes of some of my fellow UUs and it makes me ashamed to be associated with them when their actions are such a reverse of what they claim to believe.

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tcpip May 6 2011, 02:07:23 UTC
Well, if that is the case it's a bit different. People a thoroughly entitled to believe whatever metaphysic they want, or none at all. A sort of principled agnosticism, if you will..

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