A thought about history

[chaletian]

I find it increasingly curious that, upon reading British history books, every telling of the tragic fall of a monarch seems to come with commentary about how unprecedented it was, how shocking, how cataclysmic. But they weren't entirely ignorant of their own history, even where it was a simple narrative constructed by monks or whatevs. The Anglo-

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[mymatedave]

That kind of thinking and it's inverse can also be seen in certain aspects of modern life unfortunately.

[tree_and_leaf]

Well, Charles I was genuinely shocking, because of the trial aspect (the feeling seems to have been that killing a king in battle, or indeed quietly murdering them, was one thing, but putting them under the judgement of commoners was quite another...)

[chaletian]

Good point - that really marks the intervention of the secular parliament in determining the course of the monarchy (and, as you say, the commoners in parliament as well - it's not just a council of nobles deciding what to do), irrespective of intrinisic godly kingliness (lol terribly sentence, but you know what I mean!). It's interesting how that became more dominant with the accession of William & Mary: curious fact is that they refused to do the king's touch malarkey for their scrofula-ridden subjects (Anne did, but she was the last). I suppose it's at this point, and with the Hanoverians, that the monarchs were truly only ruling at Parliament's choice and no-one could really pretend otherwise.

Sorry, that was all very rambly and incoherent!

[katherinea]

I know what you mean but think we are still like it. I'd be pretty shocked if someone deposed Elizabeth and we still have all these "can she abdicate?" questions when Edward VIII did and we seemed to cope.

And most of us are lucky enough to have grown up in a time of peace and relative prosperity and don't think that it will all cock up. But we've had those before and they tend to get followed by catastrophic wars/Black death/collapse of Roman Empire/rise of horrible murderous despot.

It was reading [i]Collapse[/i] by Jared Diamnond that brought home to me how these nice, stable societies where everything has been fine(ish) for maybe hundreds of years just go poof like that..

We're all doomed, I tell you!

[chaletian]

We are doomed. I have known this all along. I shall wait here, eating oreo cadbury's, until my demise.

I was hoping we might have an apocalypse fueled by the economic collapse, but that didn't happen. Or it's just biding its time...

[katherinea]

I'm sure the world is meant to end soon. Or so I've been told. Several times. It's running late.