Though I agree the dog didn't get physically hurt, I don't understand the idea of chasing around an insecure dog that's afraid of strangers. The dog was obviously terrified, and though I definitely agree it needs training, having a stranger (Cesar) chase it around when it's giving very clear signs it's uncomfortable, frightened, and anxious (eyes wide, ears back, tail tucked, drooling, barking) is only reaffirming that it's WORTH being afraid of strangers, instead of say, teaching it that strangers are a good thing and aren't scary.
Even when on the walk the dog was tired but not relaxed. It's tail was still tucked, eyes wide, ears back, and it's face was tense. All signs of a scared, nervous, or anxious dog. Not behaving badly does not equal calm or secure.
Did chasing result in a tired dog? Sure. I don't see how it needed to be chased though.
Why? How would chasing a reportedly insecure dog around a yard help?
He chased the dog around to drain its energy and it obviously worked.
I would be exhausted if a big, scary, aggressive man chased me around the yard. He could have chosen a less threatening and more humane method to tire the dog out.
I've owned dogs all my life and what Cesar did does not make sense. That's neither here nor there.
The dog bit someone! and everyone is upset that Cesar chased him around? That's ridiculous.
Yes, the dog did bite someone. It is not something to be taken lightly. This is part of why it matters how you handle such a dog (the other part being that this is a living being that should be treated humanely). The dog is fearful and insecure. He bites out of fear. What Cesar did caused the dog to become stressed, experience fear, and reach a state where it simply shut down. It was not scared because someone finally "stood up to him"; the dog is not a school-yard bully who will understand such humane notions. The dog was scared because it saw other people as a threat, likely caused by lack of socialization. Cesar merely proved that strangers are unpredictable and scary. That is a shame
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The owners being happy with the dog may be true, but what about the dog? The dog may not be misbehaving, but that doesn't mean it's happy. What Cesar did just scare and tire the dog into not really doing much of anything at all. There are ways to make both the owner AND the dog happy, without needlessly frightening the dog into shutting down.
The dog needed to be chased around? What purpose does this serve? There are a dozen other ways to tire out a dog, which don't cause stress or fear to the dog.
From the description in this post and below, the dog didn't sound calm at all after being chased around. I plan on viewing the clips later to see the body language for myself, but I have no reason not to trust this description.
Exercising a dog to make them easier to work with is fine and a common practice. Scaring the ever loving hell out of an already fear aggressive animal by proving that it's fears are founded? That's just crazy.
A 5 year old is acting up in kindergarten. He's hitting and biting other kids and the teacher and screaming at the top of his lungs. He won't stand in line and walk nicely to and from the classroom.
The teacher asks a friend who the kid does not know to come over to recess. The guy wears a ski mask and holds a gun/bat/stick. He chases the kid around for 10 minutes at full speed with no pauses.
The kid runs into a playhouse exhuasted. The guy walks in grabs the kid's hand and walks him to class. The kid follows without a fight.
It worked. The kid is not longer being a pill.
But just because something is effective at that moment does not make it a good technique (one that will work all the time, one without side effects, and one that is humane).
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Even when on the walk the dog was tired but not relaxed. It's tail was still tucked, eyes wide, ears back, and it's face was tense. All signs of a scared, nervous, or anxious dog. Not behaving badly does not equal calm or secure.
Did chasing result in a tired dog? Sure. I don't see how it needed to be chased though.
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Why? How would chasing a reportedly insecure dog around a yard help?
He chased the dog around to drain its energy and it obviously worked.
I would be exhausted if a big, scary, aggressive man chased me around the yard. He could have chosen a less threatening and more humane method to tire the dog out.
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Just like grooming and washing dogs for several years does not make Cesar one either.
I am not an expert either, but I have more education in animal behavior than Cesar does.
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The dog bit someone! and everyone is upset that Cesar chased him around? That's ridiculous.
Yes, the dog did bite someone. It is not something to be taken lightly. This is part of why it matters how you handle such a dog (the other part being that this is a living being that should be treated humanely). The dog is fearful and insecure. He bites out of fear. What Cesar did caused the dog to become stressed, experience fear, and reach a state where it simply shut down. It was not scared because someone finally "stood up to him"; the dog is not a school-yard bully who will understand such humane notions. The dog was scared because it saw other people as a threat, likely caused by lack of socialization. Cesar merely proved that strangers are unpredictable and scary. That is a shame ( ... )
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From the description in this post and below, the dog didn't sound calm at all after being chased around. I plan on viewing the clips later to see the body language for myself, but I have no reason not to trust this description.
Exercising a dog to make them easier to work with is fine and a common practice. Scaring the ever loving hell out of an already fear aggressive animal by proving that it's fears are founded? That's just crazy.
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A 5 year old is acting up in kindergarten. He's hitting and biting other kids and the teacher and screaming at the top of his lungs. He won't stand in line and walk nicely to and from the classroom.
The teacher asks a friend who the kid does not know to come over to recess. The guy wears a ski mask and holds a gun/bat/stick. He chases the kid around for 10 minutes at full speed with no pauses.
The kid runs into a playhouse exhuasted. The guy walks in grabs the kid's hand and walks him to class. The kid follows without a fight.
It worked. The kid is not longer being a pill.
But just because something is effective at that moment does not make it a good technique (one that will work all the time, one without side effects, and one that is humane).
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