“There was something dark in that last scene,” he explains. “They’re together. They’re badly, deeply hurt, but they still have a love and they’re still drawn to each other. That’s probably the most happy of the ways it could have ended. It came full circle (a.), and I loved shooting that scene(b.). It felt very much like the end of an era - there wasn’t one ounce of innocence left in that relationship.” - Francois on whether the borgias will ever get a happy ending
a. that's exactly what we have been saying (love that the show began and ended w c/l) b. loved shooting it cuz he gets to be all over Holliday in one way or another and gets to tell her she's his;))
"I know Cesare was not perfect. I know he was a dark soul and cruel at times, but I f-- loved him.” - Francois. this is exactly how i feel about cesare, and lucrezia, and cesare&lucrezia:))) and also, that sentence could prob have been straight from lucrezia's mouth lol:p
"I liked the ending," Arnaud tells Zap2it. "For my character and Lucrezia, there was something very Shakespearean about it." - he always talks about C/L! it makes me kinda goofy happy;)
"At first," says Arnaud, "what shocked me is that Neil always said that he didn't want to go there, and that he personally didn't believe it happened. Those were conversations we had early on in season one. 'shocked me'- trans. whaaaaat? you give me this great story where obvvvv these two people are in love and totally went there then you give me holliday and obvvvvv we two people are in love and totally want to go there :)) u can't do that! 'conversations'- trans. arguments w me defending the crazy chemistry btwn our characters...and us:0))
"When I first read it, I went, 'Oh my God, he's going for it.' But I think, dramatically, you can only hint at something for a certain while before you have to actually go there, or you're .... in a movie, maybe it wouldn't have happened, but in a TV series, after three seasons, you have to move on to the next level, at some point." oh my God he's going for it- trans.yes!!!!! jumping up and down fist pumping roaring like a lion prob cuz that's what francois does so well and it makes H laugh;)) the rest of the quote- trans. you can't have holliday and me onscreen that long without something goin down. ps we want our love scenes!
"For our characters, I have to say, I feel like we've been playing that since the very first scene of season one. So it felt like a natural progression of their relationship and not something that was forced. Also, we never thought of anything -- well, Jeremy might have -- but Holliday, me, we never thought of anything as shock value. It was not just about sex. Even when we shot the sex scenes, those particular sex scenes, it was about a thousand other things than sex. It's about their emotional connection, where they're at, and their relationship, and how she feels about her husband. It was about so many other things than just about sex." side note i can almost hear the reverence/smile in his voice when i read how he mentions Holliday:)) and then them filming those partiiiicular (he remembers them particularly:)) scenes
trans of this whole paragraph- it was making love on every (phsyical spiritual emotional etc) level it was the ultimate connection btwn two people in love . you know who he's talkin bout eirelysha;)) yes cesare and lucrezia which he alludes to....afffffter he alludes(is that a word or did i make it up?) to uh wait no he said it straight out- we;))(himself and Holliday that is)
so since you mentioned their craaaazy chemistry, I thought i'd put in a couple Francois quotes i found from these sites (tho it's from an original interview(s) w Francois elsewhere)
http://borgia.forumfree.it/?t=66221071
http://borgia.forumfree.it/?t=66217119#.UcASCXBIF7c.tumblr
As usual he can't stop talking about C/L.... which basically amounts to, for him, holly;0))
“There was something dark in that last scene,” he explains. “They’re together. They’re badly, deeply hurt, but they still have a love and they’re still drawn to each other. That’s probably the most happy of the ways it could have ended. It came full circle (a.), and I loved shooting that scene(b.). It felt very much like the end of an era - there wasn’t one ounce of innocence left in that relationship.” - Francois on whether the borgias will ever get a happy ending
a. that's exactly what we have been saying (love that the show began and ended w c/l)
b. loved shooting it cuz he gets to be all over Holliday in one way or another and gets to tell her she's his;))
"I know Cesare was not perfect. I know he was a dark soul and cruel at times, but I f-- loved him.” - Francois. this is exactly how i feel about cesare, and lucrezia, and cesare&lucrezia:))) and also, that sentence could prob have been straight from lucrezia's mouth lol:p
"I liked the ending," Arnaud tells Zap2it. "For my character and Lucrezia, there was something very Shakespearean about it." - he always talks about C/L! it makes me kinda goofy happy;)
"At first," says Arnaud, "what shocked me is that Neil always said that he didn't want to go there, and that he personally didn't believe it happened. Those were conversations we had early on in season one.
'shocked me'- trans. whaaaaat? you give me this great story where obvvvv these two people are in love and totally went there then you give me holliday and obvvvvv we two people are in love and totally want to go there :)) u can't do that! 'conversations'- trans. arguments w me defending the crazy chemistry btwn our characters...and us:0))
"When I first read it, I went, 'Oh my God, he's going for it.' But I think, dramatically, you can only hint at something for a certain while before you have to actually go there, or you're .... in a movie, maybe it wouldn't have happened, but in a TV series, after three seasons, you have to move on to the next level, at some point."
oh my God he's going for it- trans.yes!!!!! jumping up and down fist pumping roaring like a lion prob cuz that's what francois does so well and it makes H laugh;))
the rest of the quote- trans. you can't have holliday and me onscreen that long without something goin down. ps we want our love scenes!
"For our characters, I have to say, I feel like we've been playing that since the very first scene of season one. So it felt like a natural progression of their relationship and not something that was forced. Also, we never thought of anything -- well, Jeremy might have -- but Holliday, me, we never thought of anything as shock value. It was not just about sex. Even when we shot the sex scenes, those particular sex scenes, it was about a thousand other things than sex. It's about their emotional connection, where they're at, and their relationship, and how she feels about her husband. It was about so many other things than just about sex."
side note i can almost hear the reverence/smile in his voice when i read how he mentions Holliday:)) and then them filming those partiiiicular (he remembers them particularly:)) scenes
trans of this whole paragraph- it was making love on every (phsyical spiritual emotional etc) level it was the ultimate connection btwn two people in love .
you know who he's talkin bout eirelysha;)) yes cesare and lucrezia which he alludes to....afffffter he alludes(is that a word or did i make it up?) to uh wait no he said it straight out- we;))(himself and Holliday that is)
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