daf bit: Shabbat 92

Jan 03, 2013 09:08

One of the 39 categories of labor forbidden on Shabbat is carrying, that ( Read more... )

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shalmestere January 3 2013, 16:19:43 UTC
Would that interpretation allow for wearing a backpack on Shabbos? Or would that count as "on the shoulder"? (Or, for that matter, be disallowed because it's a "usual way of carrying" these days?)

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cellio January 4 2013, 01:46:29 UTC
I think a backpack would be a two-fer -- on the shoulder and the usual way. (There's a discussion, on the other end of the link I just added to the entry, about chewing gum -- which, being usually carried in the mouth, isn't ok even though it's in the mouth.)

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mbarr January 3 2013, 21:47:05 UTC
It's a shiniue. Basically, if you need to do something prohibiited, doing it w/ a shinuie makes it less of a problem.

That, plus a rabbinic prohibition, can almost make it allowed.. Not ideal, but... not breaking shabbos, necessarily.

We are still strict on it - it wasn't ideal, but you weren't killed for doing it. It doesn't mean it was something you actually *did* though...

Ask on mi yodeya. You'll get more, from people w/ sources :)

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cellio January 4 2013, 01:49:06 UTC
Thank you. Today I learned a new word today.

According to the fine folks at Mi Yodeya (see update for link), "not culpable" here means you don't owe a korban, not that it's actually ok to do these things. It's just a rabbinic prohibition instead of a biblical one.

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