Why they were so wise.

[ceboholic]

Zak and Al and the rain man.

Comments

[ceboholic]

I noticed the name, too. I thought it might be his dad or somesuch.

I wouldn't say that it was a slur to state that Newton and Einstein had Asperger's. There are people living today who have undiagnosed Asperger's and even mild Autism; I'd be loathe to dismiss their conditions, though.

However, I'm not sure how you'd be able to tell with the dead, but I do agree with the notion of seeing the condition as a variation of "normality" which doesn't excuse behaviour as much as it may explain it. These are just people, too!

[80s_child]

What do you mean 'Aspies can't do any original work'? Thanks a lot

"Gah, the presumption of some people *Indignant* It's the eternal nasty labelling of people/things one can't quite comprehend GRR" is pretty exactly how I feel right here. Touché?

Also it's no 'of course' they didn't have it. Or are you a neurologist? What do you actually know about the syndrome? Just curious, that's all...

[80s_child]

Also I'd say that it's just the opposite - Aspies are usually the ones able to turn an issue at hand around and look at it from another angle which provides an original insight to it, better than most neurotypicals at least.

[ceboholic]

I was wondering when you'd weigh in! Good lass.

[80s_child]

I'm not gonna be trampled! :P

Also, I don't see Autism and ASD's as a disease that needs curing. People with ASD's often need a (sometimes life-long) support group to learn to cope with their 'condition', but once they do so they have a powerful asset - a mind which naturally takes unconventional routes on different issues. Autists may have more trouble with more practical cognitive skills but Asperger's being only a high-functioning form of Autism - while sharing traits - the two are not really comparable in that sense

[80s_child]

I'd suggest you put as much effort into googling and wiki'ing the topic itself as you did on Baron-Cohen, and you may actually know what you're talking about...

[ceboholic]

I don't think she meant anything by it. It was just an off-the-cuff remark in response to an interesting post. So play nice.

[ajat]

Please accept my apologies about the mess. Sorry, hun

[80s_child]

Are you referring here to the remark on Sacha or Aspies?

[ceboholic]

I meant her remarks on Aspergers. Your reply struck me as a little confrontational, that's all. I understand why, and I'm sure she doesn't mind a bit. Just a quick heads up, that's all.

[80s_child]

Yeah I realised reading them now afterward that my comments probably came across as pretty agressive where as I meant them just like I'd've spoken them in a very calm manner. And referring to Aspergers in the way she did, twice even, doesn't seem to me that 'off-the-cuff' anymore. I don't take such strong meanings (unless they are factual, or the subject at hand is a matter of opinion - which wasn't the case here) about anything very well.

[ajat]

Thanks for your comments. Allow me to suggest continuation of this discussion in my lj, if you will

[ric_leonhart]

If you ask me, it's perfectly plausible they might have had Asperger's. An Aspie can perfectly well function in daily life and activity, still with having this "eccentric" trait that can make this person a challenge to interact with. And when that come to that case, it's all about how the people around them see it and relate to it, not themselves

[ajat]

:) Thanks for your comment and point of view