Some of the npr caucus commentary I heard seemed to suggest that a lot of the younger and first time caucus-goers were for Obama, while older voices came on supporting Edwards, Richardson, or Clinton. I wonder if you see a generation gap emerging with his campaign. My father doesn't particularly see him as a viable candidate, though I do...
Definitely a plus especially if he's serious about that whole CHANGE thing-- which I think he is. I hope he finds ways to connect with older voters though. I don't get the sense that he's particularly radical, so maybe it will become easy if he makes it through and Hilary and Edwards drop out of the picture.
What really amazes me is that he got all those young people to come out and vote. Young people not voting has been a basic verity of American politics ever since we started letting them vote.
I wonder why your father thinks he's not viable. The problems with Obama's electability (middle name, fifteen-year voting record to attack, smoking, cocaine use, more potential for skeletons in closet) strike me as about equal to Clinton's stratospheric negatives.
also, at least some people in the media are saying that the reason obama won was that he ran a really well-organized and sophisticated campaign -- complete with GOP-style voter tracking and carefully targeted get-out-the-vote efforts.
and apparently it run largely by people like you :)
Working for a guy who's running as a change candidate is awesome. You get to ask people "what kinds of things would you like to see change in this country?", take detailed notes on the answers, and then data-mine the hell out of it for follow-ups. Yeah, we're a pretty sophisticated operation. :-)
I don't see much substantive difference between Obama and Clinton, but I'm very happy about Huckabee's big win on the GOP side. I think it would be a good thing for the country if the GOP moved further to the left on taxes and social spending-plus he's completely unelectable.
foreign media..baaaaaaaaaahJanuary 5 2008, 12:48:37 UTC
its intersting how japanese media carried this news.
it wasn't front page material; at least not above the fold material but the headline was 'Ms. Clinton Looses' as if they've expected her to be the winner... Maybe they figured everyone knows Hillery and don't know who the others (obama/edwards/everyonelse) are so itd be more intersting header for the news. After all, if an average american can't name every democrat or republican running, how do you expect people from other countries to know them too?
Re: foreign media..ccommackJanuary 5 2008, 14:50:03 UTC
Some of it is name recognition. Also, in Japan, it wouldn't have happened; Clinton would just have had a coronation as party leader and that would have been that. That the Establishment candidate lost is very alien to the Japanese press.
Re: foreign media..baaaaaaaaaahJanuary 5 2008, 20:40:24 UTC
good point, but we really don't get to choose our PM. And we like to go through them like tissue paper; i mean which other country could have 20 differnt PMs in last 20 yrs and still have a relatively stable economy? I guess it shows that the economy is foreign from the day-to-day operation of people's lives...
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Some of the npr caucus commentary I heard seemed to suggest that a lot of the younger and first time caucus-goers were for Obama, while older voices came on supporting Edwards, Richardson, or Clinton. I wonder if you see a generation gap emerging with his campaign. My father doesn't particularly see him as a viable candidate, though I do...
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I wonder why your father thinks he's not viable. The problems with Obama's electability (middle name, fifteen-year voting record to attack, smoking, cocaine use, more potential for skeletons in closet) strike me as about equal to Clinton's stratospheric negatives.
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i've following the post-caucus political commentary all night. i can't remember the last time i read anything in the news that made me this happy.
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and apparently it run largely by people like you :)
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it wasn't front page material; at least not above the fold material but the headline was 'Ms. Clinton Looses' as if they've expected her to be the winner... Maybe they figured everyone knows Hillery and don't know who the others (obama/edwards/everyonelse) are so itd be more intersting header for the news. After all, if an average american can't name every democrat or republican running, how do you expect people from other countries to know them too?
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