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Tree falling in the forest.
Do physical laws or phenomenon exist without the concepts that describe their properties?
If vibrations are a form of sound and all the world had no mechanism to convert vibrations into sound (ear to brain via electric impulse) then the concept of sound could never come into existence. I think that’s true, but only for the concept. What about different spectrums of light? just because we can’t see them does that mean they don’t exist? We’ve been able to in the last 100ish years convert the vast majority of the light spectrum into various recognizable colors. Though true the actual ultra-violet, infer-red, and x-rays remain outside the realm of our physical senses, this does not mean that before the time in which we were able to convert them they did not exist. Just because we have limited senses doesn’t mean nature is limited.
Now, do the laws of physics exist in a void?
Yes they exits... sometimes, or more rightly sometimes we can know they exist. To know that they exist certain requirements must be met. In no way is it posable to prove the laws of physics exist in a void without an object to interact with, so the first requirement is an object. The second requirement is prior knowledge of the objects interaction with physical laws outside the void. Once the known object is in the void or outside of our “sense spectrum” we can still infer certain consequences of its actions via prior knowledge.
The tree.
In no way do we need a mechanism present to measure whether or not sound is present, just as we need no mechanism present now to know that there is more to the light spectrum than what is seen, because prior knowledge has proven this. All we need to know is that the phenomenon of sound happens when a tree falls regardless of whether or not it is measured or observed.
Do physical laws or phenomenon exist without the concepts that describe their properties?
If vibrations are a form of sound and all the world had no mechanism to convert vibrations into sound (ear to brain via electric impulse) then the concept of sound could never come into existence. I think that’s true, but only for the concept. What about different spectrums of light? just because we can’t see them does that mean they don’t exist? We’ve been able to in the last 100ish years convert the vast majority of the light spectrum into various recognizable colors. Though true the actual ultra-violet, infer-red, and x-rays remain outside the realm of our physical senses, this does not mean that before the time in which we were able to convert them they did not exist. Just because we have limited senses doesn’t mean nature is limited.
Now, do the laws of physics exist in a void?
Yes they exits... sometimes, or more rightly sometimes we can know they exist. To know that they exist certain requirements must be met. In no way is it posable to prove the laws of physics exist in a void without an object to interact with, so the first requirement is an object. The second requirement is prior knowledge of the objects interaction with physical laws outside the void. Once the known object is in the void or outside of our “sense spectrum” we can still infer certain consequences of its actions via prior knowledge.
The tree.
In no way do we need a mechanism present to measure whether or not sound is present, just as we need no mechanism present now to know that there is more to the light spectrum than what is seen, because prior knowledge has proven this. All we need to know is that the phenomenon of sound happens when a tree falls regardless of whether or not it is measured or observed.