Bend and Not Break Chapter Eighteen

Jun 12, 2006 17:45



Chapter Eighteen: The Unlikely Ally

A week ago, all that mattered to Harry was getting his magical powers back, but now that he had them he didn’t feel like there was anything to celebrate. It had taken him three more days to regain full use of his magical abilities, and in that time there had still been no sign the Order was getting ( Read more... )

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elimandjulian June 12 2006, 22:30:29 UTC
I've been following your writing a while and I really can't much tell if you like Ron and Hermione together or not. I know that you also write Ron and Hermione and Harry and it seems like you like Hermione and Harry better as a couple. This isn't necessarily a knock on you, but it really becomes apparent in chapters like this. Ron seemed to be trying as best as he could to be a gentle lover, and I think Hermione was out of character in saying that "It wasn't bad." If I were Ron, I'd be angry too.

I just find it a little strange that in your stories where Harry and Ginny are screwing for the first time, you have Harry as this amazing lover and Ginny is very pleased even if she doesn't come, but in Ron and Hermione, Ron does the same thing and he gets shot down. Again, it's not my business if you prefer Harry and Hermione, either together or you just prefer them as characters more than you prefer Ron. I will say that it comes off in not just this story but in a lot of stories that you don't like Ron very much and that's sort strange and it makes your Ron and Hermione scenes seem flat. Just an opinion.

Overall, though, I like the story. This is probably the only story of its kind I'm reading regularly now because I want to keep an open mind for the canon horcrux hunt in book seven. Nice handling of the Draco situation, though I don't trust him any more than Harry and Moody do.

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carter_sg1 June 12 2006, 22:36:56 UTC
I'm definitely not a Harry/Hermione shipper. I also most definitely do not hate Ron. If it comes across that way, well... I don't really know what to say except that's not what I meant.

You're right not to trust Malfoy. He's never done anything unless he gets something out of it.

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elimandjulian June 14 2006, 05:25:43 UTC
I'm definitely not a Harry/Hermione shipper. I also most definitely do not hate Ron. If it comes across that way, well... I don't really know what to say except that's not what I meant.

Okay. I suppose for me, it's just that you are very consistently making Ron kind of a jerk in these sort of scenes and you don't do the same to Harry. I think I have read two of your Harry/Ginny and Ron/Hermione stories. In each case when Harry and Ginny were having sex for the first time, Ginny was ecstatic even when Harry was as "bad" at it as Ron was. It has just been my experience that people who make Ron as inept and cold as he tends to be in your stories don't like Ron, but if you say that you do, then that's that.

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fiordispina June 14 2006, 04:33:31 UTC
I think this is my first time commenting here, so sorry it's not a real "review." But I thought what you said was interesting, even though I don't entirely agree. What I see in these stories is that some relationships are easier than others--some people would take that to be a value judgment, but I don't. An easier relationship isn't better or more worthwhile, it's just different in the way it happens day-to-day. Both in canon and in these stories, I see Harry and Ginny as having an easy relationship without a lot of "meta" discussion about the relationship--once they notice each other, it just happens--and Ron and Hermione as having a relationship that is--well, not easy, in the sense that it seems to require a lot of balancing and negotiation. So while I did see the scene at the end of this chapter as somewhat abrupt, it didn't strike me as OOC.

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elimandjulian June 14 2006, 05:34:19 UTC
What I see in these stories is that some relationships are easier than others--some people would take that to be a value judgment, but I don't. An easier relationship isn't better or more worthwhile, it's just different in the way it happens day-to-day.

I completely agree with you. "Easy" doesn't necessarily mean better. I think that all things equal, Harry and Ginny or Bill and Fleur would flame out before Ron and Hermione or even Remus and Tonks. But then again, by all accounts, Molly and Arthur knew they were "made" for each other and they're still together 7 kids and umpteen years later.

Both in canon and in these stories, I see Harry and Ginny as having an easy relationship without a lot of "meta" discussion about the relationship--once they notice each other, it just happens--and Ron and Hermione as having a relationship that is--well, not easy, in the sense that it seems to require a lot of balancing and negotiation.

Ah. I see your point there. I just think that in some ways, as people get to know each other, the balancing becomes a little less like guesswork. I think that if Ron and Hermione got close enough to have sex, Ron would know that Viktor Krum would be a bad topic of conversation during any part of it. Frankly, I find it hard to believe that a boy who just got his ego shot down as Ron did would give his girlfriend an opening to say or even think "Yeah, you know what? Viktor would have gotten me off. Why'd I waste this on Ron?"

So while I did see the scene at the end of this chapter as somewhat abrupt, it didn't strike me as OOC.

I respect that opinion. And really, the only thing in the chapter that struck me as OOC was Hermione's words and Ron's reactions. I think the first-time sex was realistic and handled well. I just don't think that Hermione would hurt Ron that way. I think maybe a better way to handle it and still have the same ending would be for Hermione to fumble around with a lie that it was great - which is what I think she would do in this situation - and Ron to realize she was lying and pester her until she snapped out that she didn't get any pleasure. *shrug* But that's just an opinion.

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