I can't believe what you said to me, last night we were alone.

May 10, 2010 18:00

WHO: Raven and Rimmer. Closed log.
WHERE: Lake Placid house, their bedroom.
WHEN: Backdated to the night of this post.
WARNINGS: Heavy theological content and philosophy. Discussion of souls. Discussion of humanity and demons. A couple in their pyjamas in bed. Yannow, the usual.
SUMMARY: Rimmer is none too keen on the fact that Raven seems to ( Read more... )

† arnold rimmer | ace rimmer, † raven roth | desdemona

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darkprophecies May 11 2010, 01:11:57 UTC
Raven spent a good half hour trying to find any reason to not go to bed... she knew what would happen the moment she was in close quarters with her soon-to-be husband. He would want to talk about issues. No, he'd want to lecture her on why she didn't believe she had a 'soul'. Raven didn't want to lie to him. Giving in and letting him believe he had changed her mind would be lying to him...

She tried just about anything to excuse why she didn't want to go to bed. Joseph, I'd love you watch you paint! David, we can watch a movie! Terrence, let's go out for icecream and no it doesn't matter that it's late! None of it worked, and she found herself marching up the stairs after being caught yawning. She couldn't get away with anything in this house, one of the downsides to being so close to them all.

She tossed Arnold a smile as she went to her dresser, and pulled out one of her longer nightgowns. She had various ones she wore... small silk and lace ones for obvious reasons, oversized nightshirts for long mornings with everyone downstairs, and then the long white gown that screamed 'I'm really in no mood for anything sexual, let me sleep'. The long gown went on tonight. Then she crawled up into bed and under the covers.

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ajrimmer_ssc May 11 2010, 01:16:04 UTC
Ah. Yes. He knew that gown. He loathed that gown. When that nightgown came out he knew he'd really shagged up proper, and would not be getting any sort of affection or attention tonight. It was the sleepwear equivalent of the couch.

But he dutifully tucked his bookmark back into his book, and yet did not put the book aside.

"Hallo," he said quietly.

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darkprophecies May 11 2010, 01:19:09 UTC
"Hello," which wasn't a cute little 'hi'. She took a look at the book he still held, gave a little mental shrug, and settled down into the pillows, back turned to him.

She really wasn't this cold, and she didn't feel she needed to be this cold, she just really didn't want to continue this discussion. This would ultimately undo a lot of the hard work she had pushed herself through, all that self-acceptance she had struggled for.

If he insisted the way she was born wasn't good enough, which was how she was personally hearing all of it, she would be out on that couch tonight. Simple as that.

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ajrimmer_ssc May 11 2010, 01:27:02 UTC
He blinked down at her back, a little well of hurt resentment bubbling up inside of him, as he snapped the book back open roughly. His mouth was turned down into a frown. He wanted to talk to her about this, but it was apparent that she wasn't interested at all. She'd probably talk to Lister about it, or Terry, or Joey, or some perfect stranger, but she'd not talk to him. Of course not. Why talk to him, she was only marrying him, for crying out loud!

He wasn't thinking that it was her being not good enough. It worried him, though, that she so easily dismissed her humanity. She seemed to be focusing entirely on the negative aspects of her heritage, painting herself as a demon good for nothing more than endless wandering or eventual oblivion, and that upset him. He didn't want her beating herself up for who and what she was.

But since she was being so frigid, he'd return the favour with interest.

Arnold J. Rimmer, bastion of maturity and grace.

The tension in the bedroom ticked up by a few degrees, bringing the emotional temperature of the room to a frosty sort of late fall.

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darkprophecies May 11 2010, 01:32:47 UTC
She hated this, whenever they were fighting without really fighting. The frigid silence cut through her like a knife, just enough for her to shift and wrap her arms around her front like she did whenever things got stressful for her. The words 'don't give in, you're right about this one' continued to pump through her head, and soon were being repeated more than her usual meditation mantras. Turning around and saying something would result in him either exploding in a fit of anger, or them having to talk about it.

... this too would pass, right? He'd get caught up in his book again, forget she was even there, and she'd fall asleep. Tomorrow they could have breakfast with the others, and everyone could just get over this.

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ajrimmer_ssc May 11 2010, 01:40:40 UTC
Forget she was even there? God, Raven, are you even serious? He would never forget she was there, he'd never be able to do that. Part of him wanted to put the book down, snap off the light and turn his back on her, too, just so she could see what it felt like. Or demand that she talk to him. Anything. Anything at all. They could talk about the weather! Or what amusing things Lady did to Emilia today. Something. But he felt like she was closing him out for something that was...god, stupid, really, when you came right down to it! Discussions of souls were best left to men in long black robes who had long ago discovered that they'd rather be on their knees in a nice clean church than getting a real job.

His shoulders started to slump a bit, in tempo with his face falling in disappointment as well. And he knew that she could feel every second of it, what she was doing to him. And, in his own petty way, he was glad. She was being stubborn. Another fight. Another bloody fight.

They were getting married too soon. That was the bottom line, and he knew it. They needed more time to work out their compromise points, their philosophies, their...their everythings. He loved her so much...and he kept on failing her, disappointing her, doing all these nasty things that made her roll her eyes and then go bring in another male to live under this roof. Probably so she'd have a buffet of choice when she finally did dump him.

The frigid upset started to slide in to Arctic depression, black and midnight blue and howling.

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darkprophecies May 11 2010, 01:46:39 UTC
'Don't give in', was being replaced by 'Do you see what you're doing to him?' very quickly. She could feel the heat in her stomach and chest growing, the tightness and uncomfortable sensations of knowing she was doing something wrong, and knowing that the more she let it go on, the worse it would be. She wanted to still be stubborn and not give into him.

Azar be damned...

Very slowly she allowed herself to roll over, but absolutely refused to look up at him. One, she knew she'd be able to see the pain on his features if she did... and two, she was already ashamed of how she had been acting.

Now facing him, she curled into his side. Maybe he'd take that as a silent apology? Maybe? If she was lucky?

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ajrimmer_ssc May 11 2010, 01:57:34 UTC
For one brief, eternal moment, he had to resist the urge to scoot away from her. Or roll over and pretend to be asleep. But after that moment, he took one hand away from his book and put it gently on the top of her head. He didn't look down at her either, but instead kept his eyes on the page.

At the age of thirty-nine, Octavius was eligible to run for Praetor. According to flibble cloob blip beep tang marsh rammling...

The words turned to gibberish after he stared at them too hard, and he had to put the book down for a moment to rub at his eyes with his thumb and forefinger. And he sighed, a deep, weary sigh of defeat.

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darkprophecies May 11 2010, 02:02:09 UTC
"I love you... you know that, correct?"

Her voice just barely broke over the harsh silence. His emotions were getting to be too much for her, and she had to wonder if he knew the level it affected her at. He could get his way with almost anything if he threw the proper emotions at her, the ones that would make her crack and fold to his will.

"More than anything."

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ajrimmer_ssc May 11 2010, 02:06:06 UTC
There was another long pause, as he slowly lowered his hand, and then looked down at her.

"I know you do," he whispered back. "I love you, too. Very, very much. So much that I..."

He brutally cut himself off, though, and prevented himself from finishing that sentence. Because the next words out of his mouth were going to be the opening salvo of that conversation she didn't want to have. He was a petty, immature smegger sometimes, but even he knew he had to shut his damn mouth tonight or there would be consequences.

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darkprophecies May 11 2010, 02:08:59 UTC
She let that cut-off sentence sink in, and what emotions he was giving off at the time it was said. ... Okay. She had to stop this. This wasn't at all fair to him, and it was starting to have some backlash.

Very slowly she sat up, still against him, and tucked her chin onto his shoulder with a heavy sigh of her own.

"... it's okay, Arnold. Best to get it over with..."

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ajrimmer_ssc May 11 2010, 02:15:20 UTC
"No."

He automatically adjusted with her, slinking down a little lower so she wouldn't have to crane her neck to rest her chin on his shoulder. And he also rested the side of his face against hers, his temple against her forehead.

"You've made it very clear you don't want to talk about this. So we won't discuss it."

Even though he so desperately wanted to. It bothered him in some subtle and insidious ways, that she was being so adamant about this topic, that she had absolute, indelible proof of her soul, or lack thereof. Especially given his own status as a hologram. Her insistence that she wasn't like him in this area worried him, since they had so much else in common...stupid, but there it was.

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darkprophecies May 11 2010, 02:26:04 UTC
"Yet it will eat you alive and will eventually cause some sort of resentment. I know you."

She was in no hurry to pull away, or even move closer. The way they were sitting now was just fine - being close without being all over one another. How was she going to face this without there being another argument? No matter how she tried to phrase it in her mind, it always seemed to lead to that point.

... oh well.

"... so it's okay."

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ajrimmer_ssc May 11 2010, 02:32:17 UTC
He turned his number three raised eyebrow on her, the one that said, 'don't give me that smeg, missy, we are not amused.'

"What is this, emotional blackmail? Tonight you barely even look at me, don't say a word to me, and it's only when you can feel how depressed that makes me, that you reverse course so I don't give you a headache? Thanks, Raven. Thanks for nothing."

And then he realises how that sounds. Welp. She's got him pegged. Bitter resentment, table for one! He sighed again and shook his head.

"All right, fine. True. But you're the one who's been avoiding me all night. Why? Why aren't you willing to talk to me about this?"

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darkprophecies May 11 2010, 02:43:23 UTC
That resentment was enough to make her pull away. A couple of inches of breathing room between them seemed so sweet right now, just to work as a buffer against any more of those lines. ... although she knew she deserved it.

"Because... you seem to think what I believe is wrong... or... is a bad thing for me to believe." she grimaced a bit as the words came out.

"I'd like this to be something I can believe without people telling me I'm wrong."

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ajrimmer_ssc May 11 2010, 02:49:54 UTC
He stared at her in frank bafflement, as her logic and reasons sailed right over his head. She wanted to think she didn't have a soul? But...but why? Why was she so hell-bent on ignoring that all-too-important spark of humanity in her? Why wouldn't she accept that there was more to her than just the demon?

...Why was he the one to so loudly insist that he was less-than-human as a hologram? Because it was his own form of self-punishment, his figurative rosary beads to worry and gnaw on and count his guilts and his sins. In that one flash of insight, he got it, and the resentment melted into something considerably warmer. Something like...well, no, not pity, but fellow-feeling.

"Because everybody tells you you're always wrong about everything else, but everybody agrees that you have no soul, is that it?"

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