Thank you for that description! It really helps me personally to seperate the author from the work (it's like roleplaying .. I guess I turned out to be a Gamemaster since I have a hard time separating in and off wisdom). Sad thing you had to live through this!
"The werewolf book would be like the hell I went through my last years in college with werewolves involved, lol. Its going to be dark and depressing, but not so much that you'd want to slit your wrists."
College with werewolves sounds awesome ;) ... sounds really promising! Looking forward to it a lot!
"Public showers? No, sorry ;p You'd have to pay like 40-100 dollars for a hotel room"
What I mean is ... well, I don't know if it exists over there, leo says it's called "Rest stop" in America. It's like every 50-70 miles in Germany. A place where you can get gas, snacks, hot food, drinks, toilets and showers ... those showers are thought to be used for truckers but are free for everybody (in terms of everbody is allowed to use them for 5$). They are single-cabin, so no worries about that. Sad that such stuff isn't aviable over there!
I think the wiping-yourself would take the reader out too far as you say, but the rest with the no-play turbo kill should definately stay in there! :D
I really like that story, just wanted to say it again. Keep up the good work! I believe in you! :)
Yeah, this is a really good example of why you need to keep them separate when you're reading. If you approach any piece of work with outside information, you're going to combine the two and miss what's really there. You know me and you know what's happened to me, but other readers don't. So if you look at it and try to read it looking for the elements of myself, you'll miss what's intentionally not myself.
Not a reflection on you or anything, but I really hate it when I give my work to someone to read, and they automatically assume that I, Candace, am a part of a story. No, not at all. It may come from me and I draw from my experience, but it offends me when someeone tries to draw something out of the story that relates back to me. Like the when my mom thought I was the one trying to make a cook book. Really, mom? Really? Or "that's such a Candace thing to do." No its not. These characters are not real.
Oh yeah, we have rest stops here. They don't have showers, though. I think its because during the gay revolution in like the 70s, public bath houses really became a hot spot for sexual activities. Then there's the issue of sanitation.
Thank you for all of your thoughtful comments! :D And thanks for believing in me
“You know me and you know what's happened to me, but other readers don't. So if you look at it and try to read it looking for the elements of myself, you'll miss what's intentionally not myself.” I know, that’s very true. Sadly it’s quite hard to separate both of it once you know that there is stuff inside. That’s the huge disadvantage you have as a gamemaster, as a roleplayer you HAVE to learn to separate inside/outside knowledge to be good, but as a gamemaster it’s very important to always combine both of it, which then leads to such a mixup. But I’ll try and give my best to separate both of it better from now on!
“It may come from me and I draw from my experience, but it offends me when someeone tries to draw something out of the story that relates back to me.” Well, for people like your Mom it may be extremely hard, since she “knows”™ you so long. One is tempted to draw forth things about you out of your storys, especially since it’s based on your experiences, but as you said, it’s imagination. A good example I’ve read once is from one of the P.R.-Writers, which was quite angry in an interview because of exactly that topic, and he said “Yeah, you know, I write Space-Horror-Novels about Mutants, and I tell you, all those visits to high-radiation areas and space-stations really drain my budget!” :D
“Oh yeah, we have rest stops here. They don't have showers, though. I think its because during the gay revolution in like the 70s, public bath houses really became a hot spot for sexual activities.” Well, I wouldn’t consider charging 20$ for a short shower as “public”, but I can understand the point there, yes. It’s probably the same reason for the bluelight-toilets which always amaze tourists from US which go all “Wow, is this an artistic installation?” … they look kind of sad when you tell them “Actually, it’s a soft blue light that makes it impossible to see your own veins, so you can’t position needles accurately” …
“And thanks for believing in me” I really do. It may seem strange, not knowing you in person, but I really do.
Aw, I know what you mean in the roleplaying business. I've made that blunder before... actually I do it a lot, lol >.< People tell me I break the fourth wall, and I totally don't realize I'm doing it, I guess because I'm so used to making my own worlds, not just one character. They all go, "how do you know that?!" And I go >.> <.< "Such and such told me! *deflects blame, that was super effective!*"
Lol, I wish I could figure out who said, "Everyone tells you to be realistic, as if reality needs encouragement." I thought that was the best quote about writing science fiction ever.
I was also amazed by the blue light toilet, until I finished reading the paragraph, lol :( I guess we Americans to blue toilets are like flies to bug zappers
I really had to laugh about *deflects blame, that was super effective!* ... that would make an awesome tshirt-slogan ;) ... and yes, "such and such told me!" always is a nice touch to every story one tells. I have to admit that I do it a lot too, altough I really try to avoid it as much as possible.
That quote about realitiy and encouragement is from James Tiptree Jr., a pseudonym of science fiction writer Alice Bradley Sheldon ... and it's really awesome, you're right!
Thank you so much for clearing that up for me! I saw it on the wall of the Sci Fi museum in Seattle, and I commited it to memory because it described so well what I've always thought. I just neglected to remember who said it, lol
"The werewolf book would be like the hell I went through my last years in college with werewolves involved, lol. Its going to be dark and depressing, but not so much that you'd want to slit your wrists."
College with werewolves sounds awesome ;) ... sounds really promising! Looking forward to it a lot!
"Public showers? No, sorry ;p You'd have to pay like 40-100 dollars for a hotel room"
What I mean is ... well, I don't know if it exists over there, leo says it's called "Rest stop" in America. It's like every 50-70 miles in Germany. A place where you can get gas, snacks, hot food, drinks, toilets and showers ... those showers are thought to be used for truckers but are free for everybody (in terms of everbody is allowed to use them for 5$). They are single-cabin, so no worries about that. Sad that such stuff isn't aviable over there!
I think the wiping-yourself would take the reader out too far as you say, but the rest with the no-play turbo kill should definately stay in there! :D
I really like that story, just wanted to say it again. Keep up the good work! I believe in you! :)
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Not a reflection on you or anything, but I really hate it when I give my work to someone to read, and they automatically assume that I, Candace, am a part of a story. No, not at all. It may come from me and I draw from my experience, but it offends me when someeone tries to draw something out of the story that relates back to me. Like the when my mom thought I was the one trying to make a cook book. Really, mom? Really? Or "that's such a Candace thing to do." No its not. These characters are not real.
Oh yeah, we have rest stops here. They don't have showers, though. I think its because during the gay revolution in like the 70s, public bath houses really became a hot spot for sexual activities. Then there's the issue of sanitation.
Thank you for all of your thoughtful comments! :D And thanks for believing in me
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I know, that’s very true. Sadly it’s quite hard to separate both of it once you know that there is stuff inside. That’s the huge disadvantage you have as a gamemaster, as a roleplayer you HAVE to learn to separate inside/outside knowledge to be good, but as a gamemaster it’s very important to always combine both of it, which then leads to such a mixup. But I’ll try and give my best to separate both of it better from now on!
“It may come from me and I draw from my experience, but it offends me when someeone tries to draw something out of the story that relates back to me.”
Well, for people like your Mom it may be extremely hard, since she “knows”™ you so long. One is tempted to draw forth things about you out of your storys, especially since it’s based on your experiences, but as you said, it’s imagination. A good example I’ve read once is from one of the P.R.-Writers, which was quite angry in an interview because of exactly that topic, and he said “Yeah, you know, I write Space-Horror-Novels about Mutants, and I tell you, all those visits to high-radiation areas and space-stations really drain my budget!” :D
“Oh yeah, we have rest stops here. They don't have showers, though. I think its because during the gay revolution in like the 70s, public bath houses really became a hot spot for sexual activities.”
Well, I wouldn’t consider charging 20$ for a short shower as “public”, but I can understand the point there, yes. It’s probably the same reason for the bluelight-toilets which always amaze tourists from US which go all “Wow, is this an artistic installation?” … they look kind of sad when you tell them “Actually, it’s a soft blue light that makes it impossible to see your own veins, so you can’t position needles accurately” …
“And thanks for believing in me”
I really do. It may seem strange, not knowing you in person, but I really do.
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Lol, I wish I could figure out who said, "Everyone tells you to be realistic, as if reality needs encouragement." I thought that was the best quote about writing science fiction ever.
I was also amazed by the blue light toilet, until I finished reading the paragraph, lol :( I guess we Americans to blue toilets are like flies to bug zappers
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That quote about realitiy and encouragement is from James Tiptree Jr., a pseudonym of science fiction writer Alice Bradley Sheldon ... and it's really awesome, you're right!
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