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Dec 01, 2008 12:58

Very Important Burning Questions about post-JE fanfiction Very Important Matters:

1. What does a TARDIS look like when it is not a blue police box?  I mean, if Handy and Rose are going to grow a new TARDIS (and this is quasi-canon, per the scene that ended up not happening) what would it look like?  Is this covered in Classic Who perhaps?

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Re: OMG THIS COMMENT IS WAY TOO LONG WHY I AM SO NERDY _thirty2flavors December 1 2008, 21:03:31 UTC
LIRL I KNOW, it would be so... cozy. lirl.

I don't know about the looming, I just see it tossed around in fanfics and on Wikipedia a few times but I've never like.. gone out of my way to do much research into the subject. I was under the impression it was quasi-canon in that it appears in some novels or audiplays or something, and those are like.. quasi-canon. Have you read Brave New World? Because that is how I imagine looming, quite frankly. Nice and terrifying, lirl.

Yeah, I think he would actively not want kids -- I mean, he warms up to Jenny, but that's mostly because Donna kind of makes him, and also because he doesn't really have a choice, she already exists, and that's different from being like OMG ROSE LET'S MAKE TINY YOUS. And Rose... I think it would just be one of those things she never really considers, because when you end up travelling time and space with an alien whom you then fall in love with, I think you reconsider things like marriage and babies.

I definitely thought her WTF face was more a WTF YOU NEVER SAID, which falls in line with Donna's WTF YOU NEVER SAID, and also just goes along with the whole "you talk all the time btu you never say anything" theme. I don't see why she'd be like OMG SCORE, FUTURE BABIES!!!, that doesn't seem like a logical reaction. And doesn't he mention that in response to her teasing him about being bad with kids? ...so... lirl..

Whatever I just find the Doctor having kids weird any way you slice it. His first companion is his GRANDDAUGHTER, it's just... weird... for him to be like OH ROSE MY BIOLOGICAL CLOCK IS TICKING.

OMG I KNOW. I am super awkward around children, I have no idea what to do with the or how to relate to them and it's just a bad scene. Do not want, ever.

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Re: OMG THIS COMMENT IS WAY TOO LONG WHY I AM SO NERDY callmepatsy December 1 2008, 21:20:00 UTC
Oh yeah...I have read Brave New World. Ugh, that's going to be stuck in my head as the model for Gallifrey now...

I don't think either of them are interested in marriage and babies, though I could see them getting married, but more due to pressure from Jackie & the rest of the world than from any need to do it for themselves, and yeah, when he mentions being a dad and she WTFs he immediately does his "hey, time for an awkward subject change now!" so she must know it's an uncomfortable subject for him (and also, that...well, dead kids generally are an awkward subject) so I don't think she expects any of that.

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Re: OMG THIS COMMENT IS WAY TOO LONG WHY I AM SO NERDY _thirty2flavors December 1 2008, 21:39:08 UTC
LIRL I DUNNO when I think looming and cold, impersonal genetic engineering I think Aldous Huxley, what can I say. However that does give me awesome mental images of Time Lord cults just like, doing drugs together. The non-Time Lord Gallifreyans can be the "savages", lol.

I see them getting married just as something that would kind of happen eventually, for the ake of Jackie and paperwork and legalities and maybe as an excuse to have a party.

also, that...well, dead kids generally are an awkward subject LIRL, THAT THEY ARE. On that note omg, "the Doctor is suddenly completely and totally open about everything!!!" drives me totally nuts, too. Stfu fics, this is clearly never going to happen.

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Re: OMG THIS COMMENT IS WAY TOO LONG WHY I AM SO NERDY callmepatsy December 1 2008, 21:55:17 UTC
I kind of think of the non-Time-Lord Gallifreyans as being pretty much like humans, and the Time Lords are like "Ugh, they're so uncivilized!"

I could see the Doctor getting married as kind of a cute, quaint human custom, and Rose being like "sure, okay, whatever" and Jackie being all like "YESSSS!!!" and then the tabloids have a field day with the Tyler wedding...

I KNOW! I could see Handy being slightly more forthcoming, because Donna's not exactly one to keep things to herself, but he's definitely not going to be like "OMG ROSE LET'S TALK ABOUT OUR FEELINGS NOW LET ME TELL YOU ALL ABOUT MY PAINFUL MEMORIES."

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Re: OMG THIS COMMENT IS WAY TOO LONG WHY I AM SO NERDY _thirty2flavors December 1 2008, 22:13:15 UTC
LIRL PRETTY MUCH HOW I SEE THEM TOO. D'you know if they regenerate or if they just live for a really long-ass time, and if they don't regenerate do they only have the one heart? I know Leela shacks up with one and they live a long time and she gets a retarded Gallifrey name, but like... yeah.

The Doctor would be amused by it and would want to mesh like seventy different cultural traditions together. Rose would just kind of go with it, yeah, and probably be pretty amused by the entire concept. AND THE TABLOIDS WOULD BE AWESOME LIRL.

The thing is that I think Donna does keep things to herself when it comes to vulnerability, so I don't think that would help much. I agree that Handy would be a little more forthcoming, because Time Lord!Ten has even more issues with the whole deal, but I still roll my eyes when suddenly he's like OMG ROSE LET ME TELL YOU EVERYTHING!! Rose would have to drag it out of him, and most of the time I think it'd be pointless and a little insensitive of her to try.

I dunno, there' ssuch a surplus of angsty Doctor fic and while some of it is well-written a lot of it just feels so awkward to me, because I can't even see his internal monologue being so OH WOE IS ME!!!! The "all right" mantra is too strong.

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Re: OMG THIS COMMENT IS WAY TOO LONG WHY I AM SO NERDY callmepatsy December 1 2008, 22:34:18 UTC
I don't know if they regenerate but I read a fic where they don't....I'm not sure how accurate that was or if it was just fanon.

I kind of want to write a fic involved Rose and Handy vs. the tabloids because I find the concept absolutely hilarious.

I think Rose will drag it out of him eventually, as far as things will slip occasionally, but she's not the type to be like "Okay, tell me all this stuff now," she has a pretty good sense of when to push, in fact she pushed far less than Martha or Donna ever did.

I mean, Ten has A LOT of angst but he also tends to perk up after his angsty fits, so fic that is super!miserable!Handy seems to take it a little too far.

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Re: OMG THIS COMMENT IS WAY TOO LONG WHY I AM SO NERDY _thirty2flavors December 1 2008, 22:51:57 UTC
I think they don't, but I know they live really long, and I guess back in the day humans/other things could go chill on Gallifrey and live a longass time too? Like that's what went down with Leela. idk.

I find the tabloids hilarious all the time, which is (parlty) why I slipped it into the alt-Donna fic. I think the Doctor would be confused by them at first and then probably love it for a long while, and Rose would just be like omg stop encouraging them.

I actually tried to write a fic that daelt with that sort of issue and I got stuck about halfway through because I couldn't justify Rose pushing any further and without her pushing the Doctor would have no reason to elaborate, so yeah, I dunno. LIRL I agree that obviously some things would slip, but there are others that I think would just never be discussed. I'm always intrigue when fics deal with the whole Master issue, because I think it's one he'd be exceptionally tight-lipped about.

Yeah it just seems like he wouldn't... I dunno, I don't want to say he wouldn't wallow because I mean, he basically wallows for the entirety of season 3, but if asked I think he would deny it fervently, so when fics are written from his perspective I think it's hard for them to walk the fine line between angst and super melodrama/Midnight Sun.

and yeah, I don't really buy super!miserable!Handy either. I mean, I do if it's one of those fics where Rose is like OMG I DON'T LOVE YOU GTFO I MISS OTHER DOCTOR AND I AM A HUGE BITCH, but I find those fics hard to believe anyway, and I don't think he'd just like sit there for years being like OMG EARTH SUCKS BOO YOU WHORE. I mean obviously there's gonna be some angst there but not... like.. .retarded levels. He hides most of his angst anyway.

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Re: OMG THIS COMMENT IS WAY TOO LONG WHY I AM SO NERDY callmepatsy December 1 2008, 23:10:20 UTC
I could completely see the Doctor trying to mess with the tabloids and Rose just going *eyeroll*.

I think the stuff about the Master would definitely be something he'd not really want to get into, and Rose wouldn't really know to ask about/push on that unless he let something slip, which I can't see him doing because, well, yeah, the "I'm always okay" thing.

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Re: OMG THIS COMMENT IS WAY TOO LONG WHY I AM SO NERDY _thirty2flavors December 1 2008, 23:29:56 UTC
The Doctor would like, anonymously leak the actual version of events (complete with parallel worlds and hands in jars) to the British parallel-universe version of the Enquirer, and Rose would just be like "whyyy."

Yeah it's the kind of thing I don't see him Ever Mentioning Again, so I usually find it interesting bu odd when it comes up.

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