Okay, this is just me, but I am wondering if this episode establishes the fact that Callie is back in the dating saddle again in a big way. Like, she casually dated the Chief candidate and maybe she had a fling with Deluca...(I just think it's interesting that he appears to be interrupting Callie and the Chief candidate)
Maybe Arizona's 'funny' reaction is learning that Callie's been playing the field and keeping it casual, but now one of her casuals is next to another casual and eek? So maybe this convinces Callie to stop fooling around and start to actually date one of these people?
Of course, the one she decides to date just so happens to be Penny, the woman who tried to save Derek but couldn't get the Attending to listen to her? Is it serious? Is she really into Penny? Or does she start dating Penny to prove some sort of a point? Who knows, right?
And how does Arizona feel about Callie actually dating someone?
I know there are folks who hate the idea that Arizona is at all pining, but we actually didn't get this last season after the first couple of episodes. And if there is to be hope for Calzona, the first step is to learn that even two years post divorce that there are still feelings. What was established, fair or not, is that Callie didn't believe that Arizona truly loved her by the time she ended things.
To me, Arizona has always been quite consistent that what she wants/needs is Callie and Sofia. The idea that she needs to have some sort of epiphany doesn't resonate with the bits and pieces we got at the end of last season.
Personally, I'd rather learn that she had been holding onto a bit of hope for them, but learning that Callie has started dating one woman exclusively kills it. And so Arizona is forced to finally try to move on. She obviously has to get a place to live and then ultimately she is also likely to start dating again.
I do wonder how Callie is going to react to Arizona dating again. Will it be a blow for her even though she is perfectly happy with her new girlfriend?
I can easily picture Callie and Penny breaking up partially because Callie still has feelings for Arizona and it's obvious to Penny. And I can picture Callie going to talk to Arizona only to get a door shut in her face for once. Not permanently...because Arizona waited two years and Callie is the love of her life...but just to get them to a place of equals, with both forced to go back and do the work that they haven't done.
To me, whoever goes all in first is the one who gets the epic marriage proposal. And I've always been more invested in Arizona stepping up with the epic proposal. (I mean seriously, we got the car proposal followed by the truck. Not romantic.)
How long is this going to take? If we're lucky they are the mid-season cliff. I really hope we're lucky.
I agree. I'm hoping it's all leading us to calzona being reunited and I really want it to be the midseason cliffhanger. I still would love to see callie being turbine to propose because Arizona also feels that callie was never all in and never really loved her. I don't think it's far fetched that they both still have feelings for each other. and you hit the nail on the head. Callie thinks Arizona didn't love her and thats why she ended the marriage. With Arizona saying callie is her anchor callie took it as she was holding Arizona down and thought she had to let Arizona go to be happy because callie was holding her back. Thays why callie tried to move on. So is it really that far fetched that Arizona could still love callie and vice versa and this dating situation gives them the kick up the bum they need to to admit it.
The big question is: how Meredith, Amelia and others will react to the presence of this doctor? Currently it is impossible not to go out with a person and search for it online later. Lauren did it with Arizona. Callie is a world-renowned medical (or something). She created cartilage, made important speeches and the principal: worked with Derek in a survey that generated super important results. She owned a hospital along with he. What if she used the Callie intending to get up to Meredith? Not intentionally, but like I said it's kind of absurd that she did not know who is Callie. And as Callie would react knowing that his girlfriend somehow contributed to the death of Derek? (remember that one of the first lessons taught to Arizona for Alex was always advocate for the patient. "Penny" realized what was wrong but did not fight for Derek). Meredith could teach it but what to expect from a doctor who took a year to try to be a better trader? And even if it does Meredith can make it clear that there will be no friendship between them. Will Callie continue dating a person who is not well accepted by his friends? I still can not understand the purpose of bringing this doctor back. Earn forgiveness of Meredith? I think Meredith has already forgiven. But there is a big difference between forgiving and forgetting.
ETA: Callie to get a door shut in her face is one of the things I really twist to happen this season.
Jenrid I agree with all your points. I hope they are the midseason cliffhanger and the whole point of it all is to get them on equal footing in regards to a reconcilliation before the season is over
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I can't see Meredith easily forgiving her for Derek's death if at all. Amelia if I had to guess would never forgive her. But it would be interesting to see Callie as the bad guy for a change. Being the bad guy who is dating the doctor who couldn't help save her friend. For years it's been Arizona doing everything wrong. It will be interesting to see if Callie chooses between her new girlfriend and her friends. Oh and I all for the door slamming in her face!
Debbie Allen kinda spoiled it initially, by posting a group selfie from the 12x05 table read with Samantha Sloyan (Dr. Death from 11x21 lol) standing next to Sara. She then deleted the pic a little after it. lol oopsy
Then there was a girl who visited the set yesterday (I think?) during filming of 12x05 (the 250th) and gave out some small spoilers.
- There's a dinner party @ Mer's - Lots of drama - Owen comforts Amelia - Arizona is tipsy/drunk - Callie is late and brings a date (gf?) who has reddish hair and named Penny (Samantha Sloyan)
There were pics that some cast tweeted and the ppl at the party are: Meredith, Alex, Amelia, Arizona, Jackson, April, Jo, Bailey, Owen, Stephanie, Callie +1. Idk about Maggie, Ben, or Webber though.
Maybe Arizona's 'funny' reaction is learning that Callie's been playing the field and keeping it casual, but now one of her casuals is next to another casual and eek? So maybe this convinces Callie to stop fooling around and start to actually date one of these people?
Of course, the one she decides to date just so happens to be Penny, the woman who tried to save Derek but couldn't get the Attending to listen to her? Is it serious? Is she really into Penny? Or does she start dating Penny to prove some sort of a point? Who knows, right?
And how does Arizona feel about Callie actually dating someone?
I know there are folks who hate the idea that Arizona is at all pining, but we actually didn't get this last season after the first couple of episodes. And if there is to be hope for Calzona, the first step is to learn that even two years post divorce that there are still feelings. What was established, fair or not, is that Callie didn't believe that Arizona truly loved her by the time she ended things.
To me, Arizona has always been quite consistent that what she wants/needs is Callie and Sofia. The idea that she needs to have some sort of epiphany doesn't resonate with the bits and pieces we got at the end of last season.
Personally, I'd rather learn that she had been holding onto a bit of hope for them, but learning that Callie has started dating one woman exclusively kills it. And so Arizona is forced to finally try to move on. She obviously has to get a place to live and then ultimately she is also likely to start dating again.
I do wonder how Callie is going to react to Arizona dating again. Will it be a blow for her even though she is perfectly happy with her new girlfriend?
I can easily picture Callie and Penny breaking up partially because Callie still has feelings for Arizona and it's obvious to Penny. And I can picture Callie going to talk to Arizona only to get a door shut in her face for once. Not permanently...because Arizona waited two years and Callie is the love of her life...but just to get them to a place of equals, with both forced to go back and do the work that they haven't done.
To me, whoever goes all in first is the one who gets the epic marriage proposal. And I've always been more invested in Arizona stepping up with the epic proposal. (I mean seriously, we got the car proposal followed by the truck. Not romantic.)
How long is this going to take? If we're lucky they are the mid-season cliff. I really hope we're lucky.
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ETA: Callie to get a door shut in her face is one of the things I really twist to happen this season.
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Then there was a girl who visited the set yesterday (I think?) during filming of 12x05 (the 250th) and gave out some small spoilers.
- There's a dinner party @ Mer's
- Lots of drama
- Owen comforts Amelia
- Arizona is tipsy/drunk
- Callie is late and brings a date (gf?) who has reddish hair and named Penny (Samantha Sloyan)
There were pics that some cast tweeted and the ppl at the party are: Meredith, Alex, Amelia, Arizona, Jackson, April, Jo, Bailey, Owen, Stephanie, Callie +1. Idk about Maggie, Ben, or Webber though.
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