I'll have to look for the explanation in her website then, because I'd like to know. :)
I wish I could remember WHERE I heard the erotic thing...I may be making it up, but for some reason, I was under the impression there was SEX in this book, so I was surprised there wasn't. Yet, I think you're right: if anyone's tossing the term erotic around, they're definitely confusing it with "sensual" and "tantalizing".
Though, if you HAVE seen a trade copy in the States, I'd love to know where! :) But I plan on waiting, because Eclipse did just come out, so there's not much I can do, unless I fork over the money for the hardcovers.
No worries about the rambling. I do it all the time. ;)
I can tell you now. Basically, Bella has a very private mind and so stuff that works with her mentally (such as Edward's skill to read her mind and a later character's skill to simulate pain in the mind) doesn't... well work.
Lol. Nope, no sex! Quite saddening, really :P! I wouldn't be suprised if they'd been mixed up. The Times nicely summed up the deeper feelings of the novel when they said "Her story, recounted in hypnotic, dreamy prose, encapsulates perfectly the teenage feeling of sexual tension and alienation." (Nope, I haven't got that memorised :P My copy of Twilight is sitting on my desk!) Sadly, I don't think that Stephenie Meyer intended for there to be any deep metaphors in the books, I believe she just intended to tell a good yarn! xD Which dashes all my ideas of the werewolf versus vampire thing being a metaphor for the Native Americans versus the pilgrim settlers...
Seriously? That's strange cos I'm British and it's out here in paperback... And, as an American book, I'd expect it to come out later here! :S Strange. Ach, well... Maybe you should try British Amazon. Though, to be honest, the cost of transport would probably be more than buying the hardback. Why don't you just borrow them off a friend or library?
It was released in a special edition hardcover with a poster and temporary tattoos around the time it was supposed to come out in paperback. I guess Little, Brown publishers is trying to milk it for all it's worth. I wish it would have come out in paperback, I don't like reading hard cover.
Yeah. I thought that might be the case. I HATE when publishers do that with popular books. Same with producers of popular TV shows or movies... Making them more expensive than normal in shops for ages >.
I don't have a good local library and my friends don't live in close proximity, and I think I'm the first them to read it. At any rate, I don't mind waiting. ;)
Throwing the term, Erotic around.lovedinthimJuly 28 2008, 12:47:11 UTC
Actully, I find allot of people throw that word around when they mean to describe something that is purely sexual, or provocative. I'm not trying to get into a definition debate, and I'm not a big brain on literature, nor am I trying in any way to step anyone's toes on this subject about their interruption on the word, "Erotic." My point however, and I do have one is that I just wanted to throw out what I found to be an interesting definition about that word, and how I think it would fit to describe the Twilight series. Again let me stress that I'm not looking for a fight on this subject, just something I found intriguing about the word, "Erotic."
the word erotic is Greek and comes from the name, Eros the greek god of love, AKA Cupid. Eros is passionate love, with sensual desire and longing. The Modern Greek word “erotas” means (romantic love). However eros does not have to be sexual in nature. Eros can be interpreted as a love for someone whom you love more than the philia (love frienndship). Although eros is initially felt for a person, with contemplation it becomes and appreciation of the beauty within that person, or even becomes appreciation of beauty itself. Plato said that eros helps the soul recall knowledge of beauty, and contributes to an understand of spiritual truth. The above quite came from an online dictinary and not from my own mind. This is from mine: Edward and Bella do have that kind of eros love for each other, the appreciation of the beauty within that person or beauty itself. I haven’t read the book in a long time, so I can’t go on and on about how each character portrays eros in the story. I could see how this use of the word erotic could fit for the Twilight book. As for the every day use for the word to describe the book, well I guess since most young girls who read this book think that Edward is a Vampire and Vampires are supposed to be sexy, and the fact that someone could kill you if they had the chance but they love you instead might be viewed as erotic I guess. That or some 14 girl swoons at the thought of, “oh, he could’ve bitten my neck but instead he kissed me. I’m so overwhelmed I might faint.” It’s the whole bad boy don’t touch thing for them, that makes them think it’s erotic I suppose? (and yes even for the older girls too.)
I was glad that this series, (so far) hasn’t fallen pry to what I consider two cliché’s in YA romances about Vampires. 1. They have sex 2. She becomes a vampire just like him.
I wish I could remember WHERE I heard the erotic thing...I may be making it up, but for some reason, I was under the impression there was SEX in this book, so I was surprised there wasn't. Yet, I think you're right: if anyone's tossing the term erotic around, they're definitely confusing it with "sensual" and "tantalizing".
New Moon is definitely not in paperback in the US. I've looked. And Amazon would've listed it if it were: http://www.amazon.com/New-Moon-Twilight-Book-2/dp/0316160199/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-9256272-5725658?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1192398476&sr=8-1
Though, if you HAVE seen a trade copy in the States, I'd love to know where! :) But I plan on waiting, because Eclipse did just come out, so there's not much I can do, unless I fork over the money for the hardcovers.
No worries about the rambling. I do it all the time. ;)
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Lol. Nope, no sex! Quite saddening, really :P! I wouldn't be suprised if they'd been mixed up. The Times nicely summed up the deeper feelings of the novel when they said "Her story, recounted in hypnotic, dreamy prose, encapsulates perfectly the teenage feeling of sexual tension and alienation." (Nope, I haven't got that memorised :P My copy of Twilight is sitting on my desk!) Sadly, I don't think that Stephenie Meyer intended for there to be any deep metaphors in the books, I believe she just intended to tell a good yarn! xD Which dashes all my ideas of the werewolf versus vampire thing being a metaphor for the Native Americans versus the pilgrim settlers...
Seriously? That's strange cos I'm British and it's out here in paperback... And, as an American book, I'd expect it to come out later here! :S Strange. Ach, well... Maybe you should try British Amazon. Though, to be honest, the cost of transport would probably be more than buying the hardback. Why don't you just borrow them off a friend or library?
Lol, glad it's not just me :P
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I'm not trying to get into a definition debate, and I'm not a big brain on literature, nor am I trying in any way to step anyone's toes on this subject about their interruption on the word, "Erotic."
My point however, and I do have one is that I just wanted to throw out what I found to be an interesting definition about that word, and how I think it would fit to describe the Twilight series.
Again let me stress that I'm not looking for a fight on this subject, just something I found intriguing about the word, "Erotic."
the word erotic is Greek and comes from the name, Eros the greek god of love, AKA Cupid.
Eros is passionate love, with sensual desire and longing.
The Modern Greek word “erotas” means (romantic love). However eros does not have to be sexual in nature. Eros can be interpreted as a love for someone whom you love more than the philia (love frienndship). Although eros is initially felt for a person, with contemplation it becomes and appreciation of the beauty within that person, or even becomes appreciation of beauty itself. Plato said that eros helps the soul recall knowledge of beauty, and contributes to an understand of spiritual truth.
The above quite came from an online dictinary and not from my own mind.
This is from mine: Edward and Bella do have that kind of eros love for each other, the appreciation of the beauty within that person or beauty itself.
I haven’t read the book in a long time, so I can’t go on and on about how each character portrays eros in the story.
I could see how this use of the word erotic could fit for the Twilight book.
As for the every day use for the word to describe the book, well I guess since most young girls who read this book think that Edward is a Vampire and Vampires are supposed to be sexy, and the fact that someone could kill you if they had the chance but they love you instead might be viewed as erotic I guess.
That or some 14 girl swoons at the thought of, “oh, he could’ve bitten my neck but instead he kissed me. I’m so overwhelmed I might faint.”
It’s the whole bad boy don’t touch thing for them, that makes them think it’s erotic I suppose? (and yes even for the older girls too.)
I was glad that this series, (so far) hasn’t fallen pry to what I consider two cliché’s in YA romances about Vampires.
1. They have sex
2. She becomes a vampire just like him.
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