Yay. I very much enjoyed your commentary. I agree that I think Meyer has a gift for getting inside the mind of a teenage girl. It's one of the reasons I think the series appeals to so many people.
As for the werewolf thing, remember that the Cullens have only lived there for three years. So the Cullens are partly to blame for triggering the werewolves, but they skipped out just as the werewolves were getting... PUN WARNING... warmed up. XD I believe it is explained more fully in Eclipse, although it's been a while since I've read the third one.
NM is also my fave cover. It's so gorgeous.
Did you have an opinion on the Volturi vampires introduced at the end? I have to admit, they're my favorite characters. :)
Hmm...I'd forgotten how long the Cullens had been there. So the vampires activate werewolves, but only those werewolves who are going to hit puberty? Is that right?
I don't have an opinion on the Volturi yet, as I don't feel I've seen enough. What I saw was interesting, but felt a little Anne Rice-ish to me. Maybe it was the names and the Italian setting? :)
And while I said Bella's attitude did frustrate me, it wasn't a total criticism because I felt like Bella's actions WERE realistic. Also, the point you make about women having to put everyone else's needs before theirs is a good one (and one I hadn't thought of, so thanks!), but I see it cross gender lines in certain lifestyles: Christians are *supposed* to put others before them. I'm not saying all Christians following that teaching, but it is the ideal.
except i think you are being a little *too* generous with the recs lol.
What are you referring to here? The fact I say to wait for the paperback or get it from the library? That's directed at people LIKE ME who feel the same way about the series as I do. I thought I made that obvious, but I'll clarify that the next time. :)
um - the "recs" comment was meant as a joke. i (obviously) read all the books myself - i'm not going to tell someone else not to read them or anything. i was trying to make a funny about the furor that's been raised against the books - i have heard parents i know telling other parents that these books should be burned (i am not a parent - i wouldn't give these books to a ten-year-old, but a 13 or 14? no problem.) *shrug* it didn't come off as funny. but that is how it was meant. it's hard to gauge how humor will be transmitted online.
i get what your saying, about Bella acting realisticly - i think the reason it sort of bothered me was because the statements were seperated - re-reading the post, with this comment in mind i understand what you are saying much better. a lot of times, if someone talks (or writes) about the same scene or plot multiple times in different places, i think they are talking about different scenes. sorry for being confused.
i think that the problem was the way the comment got formatted, the smiley-face was on a different line - so it was hard to tell that it was with the joke - making it look like *not* a joke. sigh. formatting kills me every time!
Though I will say one thing about Bella being selfish and where I think it goes too far, even though I see it as realistic: her actions that would get her seriously hurt or killed? Too far: she never gave any thought to how it would affect her mom and dad if she, you know, DIED, and that's too selfish. I was glad that she had the revelation after her cliff jump that she had, indeed, gone too far.
i totally agree that when she was doing incredibly stupid things that were inherently dangerous and not taking any sort of safety precaution that it *WAS* too far and too selfish - she never thought about how anyone at all (except maybe Edward) would react to her dying.
all i was really saying is that i was happy that a female character was written as being able to temporarily be that selfish without *ALSO* being an evil horrible shallow person.
also: i just want to note - nothing i wrote was at all meant to be critical of what *you* wrote - i was just getting out some of my thoughts about the book, riffing off of what you wrote. i thought that this review was actually quite wonderful - it gave just enough "plot" to draw people in, or let them know they won't like it, without going overboard and making it so totally spoiled that one doesn't *want* to read it because they already know what happened.
it why i read your reviews :) they are awesome. i just almost never reply - and the only reason i did was to talk about the "being selfish" aspect, because everyone i know either hates Belle entirely for it, or doesn't realize that it was weird or different. and you got that it was weird/different, without *hating* her for being selfish temporarily.
(ok, and also for the timeline :) it's confusing, and i can't resist an opportunity to be helpful when it comes to timelines. i'm sort of a time-line geek...)
As for the werewolf thing, remember that the Cullens have only lived there for three years. So the Cullens are partly to blame for triggering the werewolves, but they skipped out just as the werewolves were getting... PUN WARNING... warmed up. XD I believe it is explained more fully in Eclipse, although it's been a while since I've read the third one.
NM is also my fave cover. It's so gorgeous.
Did you have an opinion on the Volturi vampires introduced at the end? I have to admit, they're my favorite characters. :)
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I don't have an opinion on the Volturi yet, as I don't feel I've seen enough. What I saw was interesting, but felt a little Anne Rice-ish to me. Maybe it was the names and the Italian setting? :)
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The Volturi are certainly more of the "traditional" vampires of the world. Aro, the leader, amuses me to no end, though.
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And while I said Bella's attitude did frustrate me, it wasn't a total criticism because I felt like Bella's actions WERE realistic. Also, the point you make about women having to put everyone else's needs before theirs is a good one (and one I hadn't thought of, so thanks!), but I see it cross gender lines in certain lifestyles: Christians are *supposed* to put others before them. I'm not saying all Christians following that teaching, but it is the ideal.
except i think you are being a little *too* generous with the recs lol.
What are you referring to here? The fact I say to wait for the paperback or get it from the library? That's directed at people LIKE ME who feel the same way about the series as I do. I thought I made that obvious, but I'll clarify that the next time. :)
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i get what your saying, about Bella acting realisticly - i think the reason it sort of bothered me was because the statements were seperated - re-reading the post, with this comment in mind i understand what you are saying much better. a lot of times, if someone talks (or writes) about the same scene or plot multiple times in different places, i think they are talking about different scenes. sorry for being confused.
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And gotcha. I can see how that might be a little confusing.
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all i was really saying is that i was happy that a female character was written as being able to temporarily be that selfish without *ALSO* being an evil horrible shallow person.
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it why i read your reviews :) they are awesome. i just almost never reply - and the only reason i did was to talk about the "being selfish" aspect, because everyone i know either hates Belle entirely for it, or doesn't realize that it was weird or different. and you got that it was weird/different, without *hating* her for being selfish temporarily.
(ok, and also for the timeline :) it's confusing, and i can't resist an opportunity to be helpful when it comes to timelines. i'm sort of a time-line geek...)
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