Comments | caine2000: You have the ability to sense and know a higher truth.

caine2000

You have the ability to sense and know a higher truth.

Jun 16, 2005 06:45

Someone once asked me what I thought faith was. I said that to me faith is the obsessive compulsion to believe in something despite a complete lack of evidence or preponderance of evidence to the contrary. He asked me if I had faith enough to believe in God. I told him that beliving in God was not nearly as important as understanding why. I ( Read more... )

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grokking the Triple A eeeniebean June 16 2005, 14:39:56 UTC

It so happens that I grew up without a single present, solid, consistent, caring authority figure. My beloved Grampie was one, but he died when I was 8. Interestingly, it was soon after he died that I decided to examine the ideas of faith and God. Not having been raised with any religion, it hadn't been an issue of much import to me ( ... )

And another's girl's opinion the_ericai June 16 2005, 16:56:32 UTC

With this, God is also a man. He has to be. When we look to the Almighty we don't look to Him for nurturing or care. We look to Him to for guidance and limits. We look to Him to be omniscient and omnipotent. We want to know that somewhere, somehow, someone is in control of this haphazard mess we call reality. We call him Father because that is what we want him to be. I must disagree ( ... )

Re: And another's girl's opinion eeeniebean June 16 2005, 19:31:30 UTC

it chafes me now when one tries to impose such things upon me
Exactly. We gotta rail against The Man! *realizes I'm going into law* Shit.

When I need guidance or knowledge or boundaries, I get them from myself because I'm the only one who knows what's best for me.
Yes, though I'll hedge to offer that others can certainly offer suggestions and assistance. To take this -too- literally would likely border on the sociopathic (though I know you don't.)

Getting to the male-female discussion, actually, the idea of the all encompassing, accepting female Gaia versus the elevated, judgemental male God is a pretty fruitful discussion.. and brings up the notion of distributed versus centralized authority which is a very common theme in modern Western gender politics.

J. says I don't know how it works for girls, but for boys that concrete, that steel, that bedrock comes from your father.It could just be that I didn't happen to have that from any figure - male or female.. but I wonder about Girls (capitalized to speak to the general) and their ( ... )

Re: And another's girl's opinion the_ericai June 16 2005, 21:46:05 UTC

1) Yes, you are right, E. I do not find myself solely believing my own advice and guidance. I do tend to bounce my thoughts off others, first, to make sure I'm taking a good course of action. Although I like to think I'm a sociopath, by the medical definition, I am not. I'm just really self-righteous and egotistical. You and your hedges. :D ( ... )

I concede the point... that you are a girl. (I've checked) caine2000 June 17 2005, 08:06:30 UTC

I did mention in the post that I didn't know how it works for girls. I'll now follow that line of thought through to the logical conclusion which is "I'm sure it works differently for girls than for guys" as I've gotten a fairly constant "I disagree" responses from girls and "I feel ya" from (some) guys. And one "I concede the point" but we'll let that go... ;) The bulk of my post pertains pretty much exclusively to guys since fathers and daughters have an inherently different relationship. So there you go. On the other hand, I'll tell you that this is how it works between (most) fathers and sons ( ... )

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