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Day 4.

Apr 30, 2010 14:10

I just finished watching season one of Mad Men, and I had this whole post planned out about things I wanted to saw about the show, but they've all been overshadowed by OMG, PEGGY WAS PREGNANT?! She was far enough along to deliver a healthy baby, and didn't even know? WHAT. How does that even happen? You would have to be in extreme denial; there's ( Read more... )

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citron_presse May 1 2010, 03:07:23 UTC

MARK MENTIONED THE CURRENT STATE OF HIS PARENTS!

Okay - gonna watch now! I'm glad you didn't hate him, at least - and I'll look forward the parts where he shines :)

If I have thoughts, I'll share later.

Mad Men sounds intriguing. I've pondered watching it before (just from promos), which is partly why your liking it piqued my curiosity.

ETA: this was supposed to be a reply to your reply, of course. I forget how to use LJ if I'm not online constantly ;)

caer May 1 2010, 04:50:38 UTC

I thought that tidbit would get you moving :D

Hey, at least you've seen the promos; when I started watched I hadn't known/seen anything. I was expecting it to be a comedy, lol.

citron_presse May 2 2010, 02:27:45 UTC

So I watched it . . .

The parents thing confused me, honestly. Although I'd had a sense in S3 that something like that (actually, both of them) might be the case, I'd sort of given up on that theory as Mark's character developed. That line (I'm being vague in order not to make spoilers for those that might be browsing this!) seemed . . . unsatisfactory given what he said in Season 5 about them ignoring him and Mrs. Shepherd practically raising him. My instinct is that the writers were just trying to wrap up his family background story in a neat package, because they don't want to do anything else with it.

It's funny, usually this kind of thing throws me into a flat spin re: ATTL. I can agonize for hours days over trivial facts such that I wrote Callie and Lexie having a conversation about sex when they just did it on the show; or that Richard had to sign some job related papers when I was just about to post the chapter with Mark doing that. But, honestly, in this case, strangely, I don't care. I thought it was out of character ( ... )

caer May 2 2010, 06:50:26 UTC

Confused you? Why? All I remember him saying was "My mother is dead, and my dad will never get off the couch again." (or something to that effect) and I don't see the connection (that you seem to) to what he said about Mrs. Shepherd raising him...I actually didn't get the sense at ALL they're trying to wrap it up in a neat little package. If anything, I think they're just making it up as they go along, LOL.

I had a feeling you would :) I dunno; I just wasn't feeling it with Mark this ep. I think I just need some time to..adjust?...to this Mark =/ I don't think it was done badly or anything, but...I dunno...

I don't know who Dan and Roseanne Conner are, but I agree, I LOVED the last scene with those two :D It definitely makes me more resolved they're heading in a Alex/Lexie direction. Mer and Jackson are now BFFs in my mind! :D

citron_presse May 2 2010, 07:17:26 UTC

"My mother is dead, and my dad will never get off the couch again." (or something to that effect)

Clearly you have less concern for spoiling your flist than I do ;)

That's what I meant - there's no connection, that's why it's unsatisfactory. (Personally, I'm putting in the irrelevant canon bucket along with his age being 38 ETA: actually, 36 isn't it? Oh, who cares - he's 40 as far as I'm concerned and I'm sticking with that.) And certainly, they're making it up as they go along. But my feeling (because I like to make some kind of sense of things, lol) is that they reached the end of the family arc with him in that episode and that odd statement was made to underline that clumsily. That's all we're getting, I suspect - no explanation (beyond the little in Season 5) of why he's almost pathologically damaged and self-loathing. (Unless they're rewriting things to the effect that his mom died when he was a kid and his dad's depression is what caused him to be neglected. Except . . . that's not what he said in Season 5, so ( ... )

citron_presse May 4 2010, 23:44:24 UTC

So . . . I changed my mind. I think you're probably right that they were making it up as they went along, but I have an alternative theory that could make it not so disconnected . . . I may post it later.

I'm also gonna apologize for spamming this post with self-absorbed, over-invested ranting. I was kinda stressed last week and I should've waited until I wasn't (and knew what I thought) before speaking!

Still love Mark in that ep, though. That hasn't changed.

caer May 5 2010, 02:08:12 UTC

I'm also gonna apologize for spamming this post with self-absorbed, over-invested ranting.

Oh, no need for apologies! I meant to reply, but it's just the last couple days have been kinda busy, and then it SNOWED today (you know about that, though), and then I forgot, lol. But, spamming/ranting is always welcome! :)

citron_presse May 7 2010, 00:19:12 UTC

Glad you feel that way &hearts

Okay - I'm just gonna do it here (the post I said I might make) because I can't be bothered to form my thoughts into a coherent structure about the whole episode.

It occurred to me that there's another way to view Mark's statement about his parents in a way that does connect it to what we already know about his background ( ... )

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