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Jun 21, 2005 20:30

Well, several things came out of my last post...one of them being that there doesn't seem to be any quick-fix solution to the problem of abortion. I've no idea why I'm making an entry out of this, but oh well.

*We decided that making it illegal isn't going to do it...as sixth_light pointed out, that will not stop abortion, but will only lead to a higher rate ( Read more... )

christian issues, abortion, the world at large

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labellementeuse June 22 2005, 02:07:56 UTC
I actually agree, based on what I said in my post, about the increase of back-alley abortions, and it should be available in extreme circumstances, such as the mother's life being in danger because of the pregnancy.
The problem I think we're having is that from my point of view, although an unwanted pregnancy may not always kill the "mother," it is still damaging to her life. And, you know, props if you can get around that and love the baby and everything, I truly admire someone who is able to do that, to raise a child in that situation. But... I can't justify that kind of damage to someone's life, in whatever situation, especially when balanced against a procedure that from my point of view really isn't immoral, or a problem in any way. I think the abortion rate is telling in that it says a lot about how we handle contraception and conception in New Zealand, and in that sense, yes, it's a problem... but the abortions themselves, to me, are not a problem.

I really wasn't meaning to attack you; I was simply trying to present a different view, of the mother's right to life, which I think is what often gets neglected in this kind of debate... I mean you can argue for years and years about whether an abortion is murder or not and people just aren't going to change their opinions no matter how hard you try, because this debate has become intensely emotionalised, rather than rational. So the only way to bring rationality into it- from my point of view- is to consider it from another perspective from which we can be rational.

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cabaiste84 June 22 2005, 03:47:51 UTC
Here's the site, by the way, if you wanna have a squiz:

http://web.mit.edu/Pro-Life/www/articles/vnv.html

The article sort of talks about how abortions are every bit as damaging as the unwanted pregnancy itself...but don't let it sway your views in any way, if it's not what you believe.

I think the abortion rate is telling in that it says a lot about how we handle contraception and conception in New Zealand, and in that sense, yes, it's a problem...

I think we discussed this on your journal at one time. I still believe that, even if the pill isn't 100% effective, it still decreases the risk.

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labellementeuse June 22 2005, 04:56:52 UTC
Thanks for the link. I skipped through it, but it doesn't compell me much, mostly because I've read pretty much the exact opposite article more than once. :P Until I do a study of my own, probably, I doubt my opinion will change.

I still believe that, even if the pill isn't 100% effective, it still decreases the risk.
Absolutely!

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cabaiste84 June 22 2005, 05:37:23 UTC
Would you be able to link the exact opposite for me? Just to see it from a different point of view, which is always a good thing, even if I might not like what it will say. I tried to get into the link you posted on the one before, but it wouldn't let me.

I doubt my opinion will change either. That said, I want to be willing to consider the gray areas that go with abortion, as opposed to just seeing it as a purely black and white issue. So, I do appreciate everything you guys have posted, even if it may not seem that way. A study though...maybe I'll do a Master's thesis on abortion in literature, that'd be cool! :D

As for icons...I'm looking for a Moulin Rouge one. I'm also hoping to make one that got an Irish dancer, and like an Irish phrase...I'll have to think of one though. There's a picture on this site from Riverdance, that I really love:
http://www.webheimat.at/magazin/Rubrik-Kultur-und-Veranstaltungen/Musical-Karten/Riverdance-Karten/Riverdance.jpg

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labellementeuse June 22 2005, 10:36:32 UTC
Nope, because I've read them off-line. :P Hmm, try Go Ask Alice; anyone thinking about teenage pregnancy should read that.

Heh, maybe. I dunno.

Okay, I'll have a think. :P Ewan or Nicole? Do I need to ask?

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cabaiste84 June 22 2005, 11:03:25 UTC
Ewan and Nicole together would be nice! Preferably them doing the Elephant Love Medley! I am *so hot* for that song, you have no idea!

By the way, how do you link sites on lj? Maz showed me once, but I can't remember!

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labellementeuse June 22 2005, 11:06:28 UTC
See what I can do. :D (But, like I said... probably in a week.) :D I love that song too.

Replace all square brackets with arrow brackets (> and <)

[a href="http://www.yourlinkhere.com/"]Link Name[/a]

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Also... cabaiste84 June 22 2005, 04:31:23 UTC
I was gonna ask you this on your journal, but any chance of another icon? ;) Only when you've got a spare minute that is!
And, if you want a job at Whitcoulls, then by all means hand your CV in, we are always accepting them! I've worked there nearly 3 months, and I find it's a cool place to work.

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Re: Also... labellementeuse June 22 2005, 04:52:41 UTC
Absolutely! Uh, but, not sure when. After Tuesday, when I go home, hopefully? Any ideas?

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