"...the polkadots fill my eyes...and I don't know why..."

[cabaiste84]

The original version of "Cruisin'" (you know, the empty orchestra duet number from Nam) by Smoky Robinson was on the radio just before. Hadn't heard it before, and I think I prefer the remake, as much I as sometimes abhor Gwyneth Paltrow

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[sadistic_crayon]

although, I guess if I were truly "feminist", I'd be pro-choice? Oh, whatever...

ugh no!! Feminism:

1. Belief in the social, political, and economic equality of the sexes.
2. The movement organized around this belief.

sure the movement will have points such as abortion where the majority feel one way or the other, however there are many pro-life feminists. And not just religious ones. There's also a sizeable group who are pro-life but do not believe that abortion should be illegal....

I get really angry when I see certain feminist groups start bitching about pro-lifers being 'totally anti-women' when being pro-life comes in as many different 'shades' or 'flavours' as being pro-choice does!!

/rant

[cabaiste84]

Feminism: 1. Belief in the social, political, and economic equality of the sexes.

I totally believe in this. I just find it hard being Christian and holding several feminist ideals, when a lot of Christians see the faith and feminism as being opposing binary structures.
There are some Christians, for example, who believe that women are not allowed to serve as pastors in a church- they believe it is the man's role to be the leader, and the woman's to be the helper and supporter. I say, no, women can be pastors because it blatantly states in the Bible that "in Christ, there is no male or female" (Galatians 3:28), and if the sexes are equal in Christ, then why should there be restrictions when it comes to teaching about His love in a church? That is what the other poem I mentioned is about.

Do you want to see my poem about abortion? Also, what is your stance in regards to the practice?

[miriamus]

Jesus was a feminist. Duh. This was a guy who was friends with women when women werent allowed to talk to any man outside their own family. Jewish men used to pray thanking God that they weren't women....

[cabaiste84]

Preach it!!! Although, I do actually have friends who argue against that, cos "all his apostles were men." *rolls eyes* He still had one heck of a lot of female followers though...
Check out John 8, if you haven't already. There's the coolest story about how He saves a woman from being stoned to death. Love it.

[miriamus]

I frigging well run through that every day in my head. let he who has never sinned cast the first stone. I was brought up Christian you know. My dad is hardcore. I remember a lot of stuff from sunday school.

[cabaiste84]

No need to get defensive, Maz, I was only pointing it out...:(

[miriamus]

I get pretty ticked off at people insisting about "a woman's right to choose" and givng absolutely no reason behind it. Maybe you do have a right to do what you want to your body but once the fetus is alive with a heart and a brain doesn't IT have a right to life? I just think the "right to choose" argument is ludicrous. Right to choose about what? Nobody has a right to choose to murder somebody who has been born, and I think once the fetus reaches the point where its actually living and not a ball of stem cells it has as much a right to live as anybody else does. The real question is when is a fetus alive.

[karenhealey]

I'm not quite sure what you mean by 'alive', but we *do* know that a fetus cannot live outside its mother's body without medical assistance up to about three weeks before its 'due' date.

Most abortion laws specify abortion cannot be performed in the last trimester unless there is proof full gestation will physically endanger the mother's life. It's pretty safe to say they're playing it safe as to not performing abortions after the point where the fetus can be considered 'alive'.

[fallbackschism]

So if the woman doesn't get to choose, who does

[cabaiste84]

I agree with everything you've said, Nat, which is why I'm pushing for the adoption factor. Of course, there are definitely people who aren't willing to do all of the above, but there certainly people out there who are more than willing to do it all, and more, for their child, but are unable to conceive a baby of their own. But, as has already been pointed out, there are all kinds of problems with adoption, and, since I've never adopted a child before (funnily enough), I don't actually know how difficult the process really is. So yeah, not a perfect solution, but still a viable one, in my mind. But, yeah, as I said to sixth_light, I'm probably just being all idealistic about this.

[fallbackschism]

I've never adopted anyone either (look, we have something in common!) but I can see why people might be intimidated by the process.
Anything that involves laywers is scary and quite frankly a pain in the ass. And expensive as heck.